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    The desire to be seen

    My crossdressing desire has been in me for many years but only once in a while up until the last year. Now I like to dress as often as I can. What else I notice is when I am dressed I want to be seen. I did venture out last week twice just after dark and walked the first night to the end of the street and back and it was exhilarating. Then a couple nights later I wanted to go around the whole block but only did a partial. I was seen both times by someone but from across the street and I do not think I got a second glance. It was a big adrenaline rush and I had a hard time going to sleep that night. I still plan to make that block but I know I have to do it with more confidence which I think will happen with each attempt. What I was wondering is if the feeling of wanting to be out and seen is common with others?

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    Ohh yeah!! Once you've been out and about enfemme.. Setting around the house all dolled up just doesn't cut it any more!! And its like a drug.. You got to do it more often and more flagrent!! At least it was for me...
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    [SIZE=4]Take it from Karren, it is like an addictive drug. Once you have been out and seen, you just have to get out more. We are just like any girls out there. As soon as they realize that they are the points of observation for men and women, they have to get out.[/SIZE]

    [SIZE=4]When I was growing up I watched my two older sisters thinking up ways to go out and be seen. It might have just been a walk around the block or a trip to the mall, but the point was the same, to be seen and accepted.[/SIZE]

    [SIZE=4]Now, I make excuses to myself about going straight home from work and stop off at the club to dance for a couple of hours or shop or whatever. And I dress for work everyday! I still want more.....[/SIZE]

    [SIZE=4]Just remember to be safe, walking the same block may attract the police or some other type person.[/SIZE]
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    yeah, but getting clocked really really really sucks.

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    Maybe ALL of us desire validation of our fem side!? In one way or another?

    Passing requires MUCH MORE EFFORT than just LOOKING like a woman in my bedroom. Also, dressing just to fit in outside, is NOT one of my fantasies. But, being discovered is a very REAL FEAR of mine!

    Like many of my CD fantasies, that of going out and "passing", has kind of just "passed" out of my conscious mind!

    I believe for me, being seen on line, satisfies my craving for validation.
    But, I don't really know!

    As Karen and Tammi have said, when you're an ADDICT, u may have a difficult time controlling your urges! And I'm afraid I fall into that catagory, too!:brolleyes:
    U can't keep doing the same things over and over and expect to enjoy life to the max. When u try new things, even if they r out of your comfort zone, u may experience new excitement and growth that u never expected.

    Challenge yourself and pursue your passions! When your life clock runs out, you'll have few or NO REGRETS!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimmie View Post
    yeah, but getting clocked really really really sucks.
    Only if that's important.. If you don't care then its actually fun to see peoples reactions when they realize!! Lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karren Hutton View Post
    Only if that's important.. If you don't care then its actually fun to see peoples reactions when they realize!! Lol.

    That depends what "clocked" means. To me it means getting punched really hard. And yes, that would suck.

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    I like to go out and be seen.
    Just keep in mind that when you do get to the point where you will go out during daylight and en femme, there will be times you could get read, unless you pass incredibly well. Sometimes people will act stupid about it. It is all just part of the process.
    Just mind your safety.

    It does take some practice to build confidence. The first time you go out during the day en femme, you will be a nervous wreck.

    Eventually you will get to the point where you just accept that you might get a few strange stares or laughs, but even that comes less and less as you get more confident. It is like what they say - confidence is the biggest determiner of whether or not we get read or catch hell.

    One huge confidence booster is if you are "out" to family and friends, cause strangers don't really matter.

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    I know what you mean.The more I go out the less i care
    what people think.I'm not hurting anybody so why Shouldn't
    I enjoy it.

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    I think after a while it isn't so much as an adrenalin rush. The fear of what someone else will do or say kinda subsides after a while. You may realize you pass and no one thinks any different, or you may just become used to whatever looks you get. In the end you realize no one cars.

    I definitely remember the first few times I went out. What was I thinking! lol. Well, I divide it into 3 different phases or categories or whatever.

    With 1, usually you don't worry about passing, you sneak around and you put yourself into situations where you MAY get seen, but know there is no real danger. But usually the adrenalin rush of the perceived danger is what really makes it fun. My first few times would just be in the car, and changing in the car. Then it was going to the car from the house. Then evolved to going for that walk down the block in the dark, staying away from those lights a bit. Maybe giving a little sneak so I can say "someone saw me!"

    Alot of cd's then evolve from 1 to 2. 1 just isn't enough for you, doesn't mean it still isn't enjoyable, but you want MORE. Like a drug as mentioned above. For some, the desire to pass just isn't there, but for others it is what they crave. This usually leads to going out to locations where you can easily get away from if you sense danger, and don't have significant interaction with people. I think I started with the park during the day, and then evolved to the mall and somewhat similar things, but never interaction and always keeping tabs on an exit strategy. While 1 may not involve wigs, boobs, makeup, etc...2 usually involves all of these to help with the "passing" experience. Looking back, when I was in this phase I made alot of mistakes that almost stopped things. I broke some of the "rules" i listed below. I was so worried about passing that there was no way I could do anything without drawing attention to myself.

    Alot of CD's get stuck here at 2. Some just want no more, or some deal with the crushing blow of the words of others and they let those words cut through them and end things there. The fear they had becomes a reality, and because of a bad experience things just come to an end as far as passing. Sometimes you just don't pass.

    Then some go on to stage 3. Either they went out in stage 2 and passed or they just realized that it doesn't matter what other people say or do, and they go out and do their thing, fingers pointing or not. It took a while for me to get to this place. There were some bad experiences in stage 2, but i really learned from them. Instead of getting crushed, I found ways to better myself. Once I realized some things, I noticed that I look and act more like a girl then I had previously realized.

    There are more places you can go back there. Pretty much just going out and being the gender you want to be with no problems. It is a wonderful experience if that is what you want to be.

    Some important things to remember or to get you through the different stages...
    1) Dress your age/body style.
    - I am judgmental, and someone wearing an ugly outfit its going to get noticed. If you dont want to be noticed, take the time and pick out something good for YOU. That hot chick you passed in the mall that is a size 3 in juniors can not inspire you to wear the same when you are a size 10 in womens. Thats an extreme, but keep it in mind.

    2) Learn to be stress free. If someone is stressed people can feel it. If you are walking all stiff, then people will notice. If you have the look of complete fear on your face when others look at you, they are going to know there is a problem. Convince yourself there is no problem, and you will be further along in convincing others.

    3) Pick where you go better at first. You have your life, or if you feel your beauty is fading, then maybe a few years. That doesn't mean you have to make your way to the fashion runway tomorrow. Always work up. Go from 2 to 3 in BABY steps. Don't be in a hurry.

    4) Accessorize, but be smart. Accessories move eyes to different parts of your body, use this to your advantage. This goes back to dressing well, but accessories can help put the eyes of other people where you want them when they are looking your way.

    There is more i'm sure, I am just rambling now.

    Dont dilute yourself into thinking you pass if you really do not feel you do. At the same, dont convince yourself that other people out there care. There are some, they are the minority, and becoming even more of a minority every day.

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    It's much more than the desire to be seen. It's actually the desire to "be".
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    I understand - I think that once we have accepted ourselves and who and

    what we are - and when we have had a lot of practice dressing and when we

    have had a taste of being out in public, we want to be seen - we don't care

    anymore if we we are "outed" - we are who we are - that is our attitude

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    Dear sweet wife and I (JJ) are planning another long weekend in NYC (opera, offbroadway play, museums) and I just received an order from Newport News with a couple of dresses I thought might be appropriate. They are both low-cut enough that I can plump up my breasts and show a little cleavage.

    I was a little nervous modeling them for her - she's never really seen me show that part of me. She looked me over, stopped at my breasts, up and down again, and stopped at my breasts again. "That looks really nice", she said, "but it also looks very enticing. Are you sure you want that much attention?"

    I thought for a second and said, "I really hope that anybody who notices me will think 'She looks really nice' and maybe admire my dress or whatever."

    She said "Do you mean that they will think that you are really a woman?"

    I said "I hope so, but that's probably not going to happen. But unless somebody is really predisposed against crossdressing, I want to think that he or she will accept me as what I am trying to be"

    And - for me- that's the point. I want acceptance from the world at large and the only way to experience it is to go out dressed. And when you go out and have a positive experience, it makes it easier and easier to do it again and again.

    I may be very naive, but I expect that there are far more people who would dislike me for my politics than for my crossdressing - and I really don't hide my politics

    -jj

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    Yeah I want to be seen but also scared to go out too much, I will try next week on a weekday to shop all day at a few malls and interact with some SA and see reactions ... would be a field day for me lol

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    Going out in public is the second best thing. It is just an overall experience. I feel things that you just can't get inside. The breeze lifting your skirt or dress, the cold (in northern climes) on your legs and thighs, your hair blowing in the wind, the sound of your heels on the sidewalk, just a rush of feminity. So alive and vital. Once experienced it's hard to stay in.

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    I'd love to go public "en femme", but didn't really give it a try yet. Maybe I'm to scared to be recognized, or to be seen by the kids... Well, maybe ONE DAY...!

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    I am not too sure what there is to be scared of. -Apart that, is from being spotted by teenagers and/or more aged folk -
    But, that thought comes after years of getting out and about, so it is not really a valid statement. Or is it ?
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    Yes you want to go out and be seened what fun is it to sit home all dressed up and go nowhere that's what crossdressing is about to go out enfemme and show your true side.

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    Wanting to be seen is usually part of the CDing package. I suppose it's a kind of validation. Few of us will pass 100%, but many of us can go out in broad daylight and attract very little attention. I don't mean we're ignored - I mean we pass as everyday females. As long as we're not too dolled up or attractive we don't get much scrutiny.
    I always go out to crowded public places like shopping centers. There is safety in numbers; also there is a wide range of ages and styles so unless you set out to make a spectacle of yourself, you tend to blend in.
    Plus of course you get to shop!
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    Going out is a huge rush! I hardly ever get the chance but I doubt I could ever get enough. Being trapped in the closet is like having a nice car you can't take out of the garage.

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    "rush of feminity" - Dawn Rodgers. What a great expression. Your words are so accurate. I remember being in the country alone, taking fall pictures and turning into the wind - it made my skirt swirl around my ankles, hair blow off my face and cathedral earrings jingle and pull at my ear lobes. I felt so feminine in that moment, and yes it is intoxicating or almost addictive.

    'Kimmie' I also would like to know what you mean by clocked. If you were hit or attacked while 'en femme' that's terrible. It's a very real risk if you're in the wrong place at the wrong tme. Unfortunatley, at night or in a rural area is the only time some of us first & second timers dare to go out.

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    Dressup parties are a safe and easy way to "go public". Everyone there has an interest in CDing or they wouldn't be there so you are among friends. You wear your man clothes to and from the party and bring your favorite female attire to wear at the party. Who cares if someone "reads" you at the party!! Everyone there is "readable"!!! This is the easiest way for a "newbie" to get over the fear of dressing and going out in public. The "Gurls" there are also the best teachers of how to act and fit into the world outside of the closet.
    You might even be amazed at who else might be a guest at the Party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EllenCD View Post
    Dressup parties are a safe and easy way to "go public". Everyone there has an interest in CDing or they wouldn't be there so you are among friends. You wear your man clothes to and from the party and bring your favorite female attire to wear at the party. Who cares if someone "reads" you at the party!! Everyone there is "readable"!!! This is the easiest way for a "newbie" to get over the fear of dressing and going out in public. The "Gurls" there are also the best teachers of how to act and fit into the world outside of the closet.
    You might even be amazed at who else might be a guest at the Party.
    Now that sounds like fun! Then you can move on from there.

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    I like to be seen.........by me in the full length mirror in my bedroom!

    Because of my size (visualize a linebacker), I don't come anywhere near passing and would only be a freak show. I'll just stay in my closet and look in the mirror....
    SamiLiving in feminine bliss

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    I'm not particularly interested in going out in the general public and "passing." I am interested in going out to clubs and being seen and accepted as a tranny. I think I'm closer to drag queen than crossdreser in that way, although I have no interest in actual DQs.

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