If i could then definately yes.
If i could then definately yes.
My best friend gave me the best advice
He said each day's a gift and not a given right
Leave no stone unturned, leave your fears behind
And try to take the path less traveled by
That first step you take is the longest stride
I have given this some thought in the past. Then, a couple of years ago, I went through a 24 hour attack of diverticulosis(sp) and the pain was intense. My wife equated it to giving birth, and she should know. It was survivalbe but leave me out of the delivery room. I have had enough 'children' from four decades in the classroom.
joank
Southern California
Pardon my French but "No Way in H#@L" would I want to give birth. I couldn't handle the pain of a kindey stone, let alone give birth to a child.
I've had a kidney stone and it was no fun, but to put it in perspective, my ex's friend Sue had a kidney stone and Sue has also given birth by vaginal delivery to two children. Sue said she'd go for giving birth any day rather than have another kidney stone. Granted, that's one woman's opinion, but one that impressed my wife, who has had C-sections.Originally Posted by brittdoll
Giving birth, definately not, but making babies, definately yes
Nope, no way, hu uh , wouldn't be prudent, never. Didn't want children in male mode no way would in female. Selfish, yes. Practicing making them is fun. Having them is a whole new watermelon.
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If it was possible then yes I would. My sister has two wonderful children and had nature given me the right body then I would have had children of my own.
living the dream :D
At 52, no, at 22 or 32, probably!
Yes! Definitely. Just to have the miracle of life growing within my own body would be worth all the short term pains of ultimately giving birth.
What I would not enjoy again is having the life-time commitment and being a parent and raising a child.
Amanda
good question, my wife and I have talked about this one our selves on different occasions and she flat told me that if you "me" want another child that I was the one who was gong to carry it, and I said fine..lol she just looked at me and said u would really do it and I said yes, she asked why of course and I said just to see what a woman actually goes through during a pregnancy. I know that it is hard on a woman especially if they are carrying twins. Yes I know that it is a woman's job to carry the baby and give labor to the child, but it would be interesting just to feel what a woman goes through during pregnancy. That's my :2c:
I would definetly do it.If I had a good man in my life it
Would be wonderful.To breat feed and take care of your
kids would be the perfect feminine thing to do
Hi Michelle, (and others who posted with similar sentiments) please don't take my question the wrong way. I am truly trying to understand why you feel the way you do.What are your motives: would you want to raise kids because you love them and want to nurture your own, or do you mostly want this because you feel it is a feminine thing to do? Both dads and moms can raise kids, it is not limited to just one gender. And the breastfeeding is of such short duration compared to the child's lifetime, especially when the mom has to go back to work after her 2 month's leave of absence. My point is you could raise a child. And although you cannot breast feed, you could use bottles and experience nearly the same thing a breast-feeding mother does.
On breast-feeding, there must be a wide misconception among TGs that the feeling is physical. The feeling I had when breastfeeding my sons came from deep within my heart, not my nipples (well, except the first week or so while I was building calluses and later on, the first time they bit me when their teeth began to grow in. Ouch!). The rest of the time, I barely felt it at all, just like most people don't notice they are breathing unless they focus on it. The predominant feeling I remember is one of deep relaxation and joy. Feeding time was my excuse to find a quiet corner of the house away from it all, and enjoy cuddling my baby. I've had many friends who've had to go back to work early, and they couldn't nurse. But they enjoyed the same intensity of love as I did when they fed their babies with a bottle. And dads too, I would guess.
But, I suppose unless something is experienced first hand, it always does seem more mysterious and extraordinary than it really is.
Reine
**Warning Rambling Discourse Ahead**Hi Michelle, (and others who posted with similar sentiments) please don't take my question the wrong way. I am truly trying to understand why you feel the way you do.
Well it is an easy answer for me because I am TS and have always, even though I was in denial for years, wanted the same things out of life... to be a wife and mother.
I thought I was mad... I didn't even really like boys back then... I had the stirrings of feelings but my chemical mix just didn't allow it to work... and motherhood... Well how the hell can a boy feel broody and want to be pregnant?
It became ten fold worse when I reached the age when my age group were pairing off and suddenly it was so and so is pregnant or you see such and such with a pram and you'd have these conflicting emotions of need and jealousy... and they just kept getting stronger by the year...
There was absolutely nothing I wanted more in the world than a husband, children and a home... and I didn't have any. I tried being with girls but it didn't work as a boy... I loved being close to them... touching them... but the whole boy thing was just bleeuuugh and so everything always went wrong... which really cut me. I met two girl desperate for children, but the reality was I didn't want to be a father... be called Dad... be the sperm in the equation. It was the perpetuation of the lie that was my life.
The first girl Carmen took it very badly... she exposed the real me to the world way back in 1994 and caused me a lot of issues by telling my friends and writing to my parents... It was that relationship and her actions that led to my growing self-loathing which spiralled into self-harm and alcohol abuse.
The second girl came later in 2005 when I had finally stabilized my life into accepting that dressing would always be a part of me, and the nonsense inolving being female could be supressed and ignored (idiot). Well... she saw through me in weeks... and all the hopes I had that I could transfer my female needs onto her blew to pieces. It was the catalyst for my crisis and was fuelled by the death of my father a month later. I couldn't live like a boy any more... I wasn't a boy.
Eventually I found that on hormones that my 'platonic' interest in boys evolved to a sexual interest and I suddenly thought life could be normal for me... I could have two of the three and I knew two boys I utterly adored, but my life being my life one rejected me outright and the other played with me for a while and grew bored. I have never been able to fully express my femininity because I never had a partner that would allow me... Drives me mad... lol... Total frustration.
So now I'm 41... and the hopes are largely over... and I'm a woman without ovaries who sees families in supermarkets squbbling and fighting and sees a wonderful perfection in it... that desires it above all. To live a normal life, to care for others, to nurture... It was what I was designed for, but I am utterly imperfect and incapable it would seem.
To the girls that don't want children and can't have children, well I understand you too... I didn't want to be a father... it was an anathama to me... It revusled me. Now I can't... I refused to store sperm and am now sterile... So no babies for me by choice. It hurts, but it was the right thing to do.
As for the pain of childbirth I don't think SRS is going to be a wonderful experience, but the rewards after the fact make up for any momentary... pure agony
Well this turned out to be a long rambling aside... Sorry. Guess I'm thinking through things at the moment... Letting old dreams go and allowing new hopes to take shape...
Sorry...
Lisa x
Der Transsexuellaußenseiter
The lovers have flown...
[SIZE="3"]VENI VIDI VICI[/SIZE]
Lisa, rarely does a post make me cry, yours just did. I ache for you hun .......... I would put a hug smilie in but it does not seem right ........... one day I will give you that hug in person I promise
I allow myself to set healthy boundaries ..... to say no to what does not align with my values, to say yes to what does.
Boundaries assist me to remain healthy, honest and living a life that is true to me
When my wife and I had our children, long before I knew I was TG, I told her that if I could I would have carried them for her. It was an honest statement then and I still believe it. If it was physically possible for me to have had the children I would. At 55 I would not do it now just because I wouldn't have the energy and stamina to go thru it all. I know all about the pain and discomfort but the miracle of feeling a child moving and growing inside you is something I've always envied. And being the Dad, while I loved it, is not quite the same thing as being the Mom. My children, especially my daughter, are very close to me and I feel I nurtured them as well as my wife.
I feel for all the TS that go thru transition but still can't bear kids. Adoption is a good alternative, but still is not the same thing. Raising children is one of the primal drives and I think for some one of the central parts of their being. I hope all you TS girls get to be Moms in some fashion because even with all the problems and heartache it is one of the most rewarding experiences in this world!
Sally
Lisa,Well this turned out to be a long rambling aside... Sorry. Guess I'm thinking through things at the moment... Letting old dreams go and allowing new hopes to take shape...
Sorry...
Lisa x
No post can be too long when you put the deepest part of your heart in it.
Reine
Awwwwwww thank youNo post can be too long when you put the deepest part of your heart in it.
Der Transsexuellaußenseiter
The lovers have flown...
[SIZE="3"]VENI VIDI VICI[/SIZE]
Geez Lisa! After reading this. I am almost ready to ask for your hand, so we can adopt an newborn. That is an amazing look into you.**Warning Rambling Discourse Ahead**
Well it is an easy answer for me because I am TS and have always, even though I was in denial for years, wanted the same things out of life... to be a wife and mother.
I thought I was mad... I didn't even really like boys back then... I had the stirrings of feelings but my chemical mix just didn't allow it to work... and motherhood... Well how the hell can a boy feel broody and want to be pregnant?
It became ten fold worse when I reached the age when my age group were pairing off and suddenly it was so and so is pregnant or you see such and such with a pram and you'd have these conflicting emotions of need and jealousy... and they just kept getting stronger by the year...
There was absolutely nothing I wanted more in the world than a husband, children and a home... and I didn't have any. I tried being with girls but it didn't work as a boy... I loved being close to them... touching them... but the whole boy thing was just bleeuuugh and so everything always went wrong... which really cut me. I met two girl desperate for children, but the reality was I didn't want to be a father... be called Dad... be the sperm in the equation. It was the perpetuation of the lie that was my life.
The first girl Carmen took it very badly... she exposed the real me to the world way back in 1994 and caused me a lot of issues by telling my friends and writing to my parents... It was that relationship and her actions that led to my growing self-loathing which spiralled into self-harm and alcohol abuse.
The second girl came later in 2005 when I had finally stabilized my life into accepting that dressing would always be a part of me, and the nonsense inolving being female could be supressed and ignored (idiot). Well... she saw through me in weeks... and all the hopes I had that I could transfer my female needs onto her blew to pieces. It was the catalyst for my crisis and was fuelled by the death of my father a month later. I couldn't live like a boy any more... I wasn't a boy.
Eventually I found that on hormones that my 'platonic' interest in boys evolved to a sexual interest and I suddenly thought life could be normal for me... I could have two of the three and I knew two boys I utterly adored, but my life being my life one rejected me outright and the other played with me for a while and grew bored. I have never been able to fully express my femininity because I never had a partner that would allow me... Drives me mad... lol... Total frustration.
So now I'm 41... and the hopes are largely over... and I'm a woman without ovaries who sees families in supermarkets squbbling and fighting and sees a wonderful perfection in it... that desires it above all. To live a normal life, to care for others, to nurture... It was what I was designed for, but I am utterly imperfect and incapable it would seem.
To the girls that don't want children and can't have children, well I understand you too... I didn't want to be a father... it was an anathama to me... It revusled me. Now I can't... I refused to store sperm and am now sterile... So no babies for me by choice. It hurts, but it was the right thing to do.
As for the pain of childbirth I don't think SRS is going to be a wonderful experience, but the rewards after the fact make up for any momentary... pure agony
Well this turned out to be a long rambling aside... Sorry. Guess I'm thinking through things at the moment... Letting old dreams go and allowing new hopes to take shape...
Sorry...
Lisa x
In a word, no! I guess I should expand but it's just not something I've ever considered.
Last edited by Kristen-Gaye; 07-13-2009 at 05:05 AM.
I've had kidney stones.. they hurt like hell but I've heard giving birth is right out there.. I wouldn't want to give birth to a child.. I passed a kidney stone, flushed it and don't miss it.. a kid.. that would be a tough flush..
This is what I mean by "every guy can look like a girl from the right angles".. this is one of the first pictures of me dressed up.. very vague look.. almost fem...
absolutely yes without a shadow of doubt, if i had the right equipment, as i havn't i'll have to settle for my kittens!!!!!
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