What percentage of all CDrs to you think pass?

[Jodi M]

I would not even venture to guess at a percentage of us that pass.It all depends on the time and the place I guess. I say just dress your best and present yourself in the best feminine manner that you can and enjoy being out in public as the gal that you like to be and people will accept you as what you appear to be.

[Melanie R]

I doubt if more than 5 percent of CD's pass under close scrutiny including myself. I pass more easily when I am with my wife in public as most people think we are sisters. I remember on one casino trip to Reno I was presenting as Melanie and was helping my wife several times cash out her machine. Both my wife and I became acquainted with the change woman who said, "Melanie, let me show you something". She pointed out a crossdresser standing at a machine. I asked if she sees many CD's in the casino. She said that she sees at least 20 every day. I said that she may have seen 21 as I am a CD. She said "no way. I thought you were Peggy's sister". Perhaps she needed a new eye exam. At this time in my life (71 in 2 weeks), I am who I am no matter how I am presenting. Either accept me for who I am or hit the road.

[tamarav]

[SIZE=4]Who cares?[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=4]Half of the women I work with don't pass via our standards. Maybe the standards are simply set too high.[/SIZE]

[Sandy Banks]

Now that you mention it, I have noticed some women that really didn't look much like a woman................

[Super Amanda]

So many here are so sensitive to talking about passing, why is that?

I like these kind of discussions, and without them everyone seems to just beats around the bush about the subject, then when it's brought up a bunch of people get mad and say things like "Who cares?". Well, the OP cares, or she would not have posted the thread to begin with, right?

Anyhow, at one time or another, most of us at least think about passing, and I know some obsess over it, which can be bad.

I just don't get the sensitivity about it here of all places, among us that are so alike. It's a valid crossdressing topic that deserves exploration. :2c:

[VeronicaMoonlit]

[SIZE=4]Maybe the standards are simply set too high.[/SIZE]

Why yes, they probably are...by ourselves, personally.

Take moi, in a picture from 03 I think.



Some of you are thinking...not bad. But....my goal is to get as close to this, as possible.

(Stizzoli Embellished Sheath from Sak's plus size section http://www.saksfifthavenue.com/main/...48096&ev19=3:6



Or even this Boss Stretch Cotton dress from Saks which is currently available only in size 2 http://www.saksfifthavenue.com/main/...4762&ev19=1:19



In other words, deep down inside appearance wise, I want to be "perfect". You may have seen my respons in the "If you won the lottery" thread:

http://www.crossdressers.com/forums/...95&postcount=2

Of course, that's not realistically possible, but that's feelings for you. And yeah, I know I'm comparing myself to airbrushed images of perfection, and I'm not saying anyone else has to be like me. I'm the one setting my standards too high.

Veronica Rogers

[tamarav]

[SIZE=4]My original reply to this post may have been a bit harse, so I will qualify it.[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=4]I obviously care very much if I pass. I work at it everyday and strive to look my best everytime I walk out of the house. I have strained everything I have to get to the point where I can work dressed, walk among any crowd, and generally enjoy a feminine appearance without being overtly criticized.[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=4]I only think that most CDs use a mindset that imposes way too harsh a result on themselves without being realistic. We can only look as good as we try, then you simply have to accept it or stay miserable. I spent way too much time criticizing my own looks, and second-guessed what could happen, to the point that I never went outside.[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=4]That is in the past, now that I get out everyday, I sometime feel for those that cannot accept their best look or feeling.Wishing you looked better after you have exhausted all your options simply doesn't help.[/SIZE]

[Katesback]

Anyone who has the mindset of the elusive "P" word has already failed!


YES YOU FAILED!!! You choose to live your life at the whims of other peoples expectations. Shame on you!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Sooty]

I barely pass as human, at least until an appropriate amount of coffee has been consumed.

Pass as female? I really don't care. Just relaxing and having fun.

[msginaadoll]

I think that these passing threads are important because it obviously is on peoples minds. Also new folks come to the forum all the time and they should also be able to express there views. So in my opinion 100% of us pass as crossdressers, tranny's, men who wear womens clothing, closet space challenged, etc whatever u wish to be refered to (sorry not being politically correct) Now how many of us are thought of as female when u see us. It depends on the situation. Are u walking by in a blur in the mall, are u in a crowd with hundreds of others. With passing you never truly know because you are not in the other persons head. So is it not being called sir and being referred to as maam. That would be 1 sir for me and about 10 maams or miss. Does that mean I pass 90% of the time? I mean I am being referred to by a female pronoun(hope thats the proper term) thus i must be passing and everyone else referred to as such is as well. So should we keepp a running tally then? Of course what if people are just being polite and assuming that is what I wish to be referred to as? Its enuff to drive yourself and everyone else crazy but fun to ponder. I guess if i had to give an actual number id say probaly less than 5% of cds would pass. However 100% of you are beautiful in my eyes. And as others have said it is amazing how polite and respectful people are out there at least to me- and from stories I hear to other cds too.

[tricia_uktv]

I saw the most gorgeous girl last week. She was dressed and made-up to perfection but I knew straight away. Every movement, every gesture, everything in her demenour shouted out that she was a guy. Girls grow up with presenting themselves as attractive women. We have to pick it up later and unlearn our masculine traits. Its really, really difficult to unlearn.

I think 5% is optimistic. Sorry girls.

[lavistaa62]

For me passing would be dressing as a woman and not seeming or feeling uncomfortable about it. In fact I'd prefer if my dress didn't particularly occur to me or others.

That we are asking this question speaks to our feminity. While men might compare their accomplishments and envy other's status or possessions few would compare their actual looks to another.

However, it seems to be that comparing appearance and mannerisms to other women is a consummate female activity. My sisters are constantly doing this with nearly every woman they see- all judged in comparison to themselves and the ideal whatever that may be. It seems roughly equivalent to our notion of passing. They are also frequently wondering if so and so is attracted to them- not sure if we do this. So maybe the ultimate in passing is being attractive to straight men. I for one would feel very uncomfortable with that.So in that sense I'd prefer not to pass!

[christinek]

Anyone who has the mindset of the elusive "P" word has already failed!


YES YOU FAILED!!! You choose to live your life at the whims of other peoples expectations. Shame on you!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bravo Kate

[erika130]

Well, to be honest, I'm not sure I'm even qualified to answer this question, as I've seen maybe only 4 CDs in person. But judging by pictures & experiences read, I will have to say less than 10% I think are passable (unfortunately).
And as I've said, that's my judgement based on pictures, which are much easier to pass on

..Also, if we were in say, Thailand or Japan, I think that probably 40-60 percent of guys could pass as women!!

I totally agree!!