there is a judge in the house who can render a verdict??????? Intelligence aside, every demographic has it's overachievers/underachievers. Initiative and ambition are not always traits of intelligent persons, but are for sucessful ones. I also believe that vocational success likewise is not an absolute litmus test for intelligence. I know folks that do manual labor who are intelligent. Let's not be too judgmental in this area. We as CD'ers are already stigmatized and marginalized by society. No need to add another level.

Good luck to all..........Kathie