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    Quote Originally Posted by Asako View Post
    Kathryn, I do believe your response over her carrying a knife is a bit ridiculous. You make it sound like a laughable attempt to defend herself. Not to mention how you rail on her as if she never considered the possibility of what might happen if she had to use it for self-defense. Who is going to protect Iztlacihuatl? Iztlacihuatl will and no one else. If...IF~! someone hears her screaming for help, they may decide to even turn around and walk away to avoid being caught up in it. On that note, who's to say that she wouldn't miss with a can of pepper spray, get disarmed of it, and get sprayed by the assailant in turn?

    Take it from someone who got the absolute s!@t beat out of them in high school while everyone INCLUDING the people who I THOUGHT were friends just stood there and LAUGHED AT ME. Nobody but the teachers moved to help me. I suffered vision damage in my left eye because of how badly I got beat up for having a gay friend. I can't see things as distinctly either in that same eye as I can with my right eye. As for my friend who was gay, he got hit from behind when he was alone and got a worse beating than I did BECAUSE he was alone. Nobody will defend you but yourself.

    I know this should have been a PM but I really can't stand it when people feel the need to tear on others who carry something "unconventional" like a knife for self defense.
    Asako, I completely understand your point, however, there are are several things I'd like to say:

    Firstly, I found it absolutely astounding that not one person on here spoke about the obvious, how on earth would you advertise in Craigs list for a partner in the TV section and get anyone other than a creep trolling for meat? Do you think Craigs list is an appropriate place to find a romantic partner, or even a one night stand? And, with respect that is where Iztlacihuatl's story begins. Would prudence not dictate to be very circumspect with that outfit especially given the recent history or murders surrounding it.

    I am 56, I grew up in the 60s and 70s. I don't know what you think of those times but do you believe my world growing up was any less forgiving. I remember the bullying, the humiliation, the beatings, the being made fun of every day all the way through school and the many times I got home and swore I would never go again. I learned how to defend myself and gave many guys a black eye, for which invariably I was punished. This did not stop the violence but rather next time they were two guys beating me up. It escalated, and eventually I asked myself if I wanted to be the person who constantly lived in fear, carried a knife and lived with the possibility of having to do serious damage to someone else. It is often the choice of whether you can't live because you are being violently attacked or you can't live with yourself because you violently defend yourself. The beatings and the humiliation got so bad eventually at age 15 that my parents took me out of the school and sent me to a boarding school in England (I grew up in Germany) a thousand miles from home where I had a chance to get a fresh start. When I returned one year later, I was no longer the center of the attention of the bullies and kind of slipped under the radar after that. I still have nigthmares. Worst of it all I didn't understand why this was happening to me, but I guess I was great punch bag because I always was visibly disturbed and unhappy and hurt after those events.

    Now then let's get to the knife issue. Tell me what you think about the following: Police are investigating a stabbing in some alley, where a girl is standing over some dude who is bleeding from several knife wounds and moaning. Except turns out girl is a dude too, who as it turns out met dude through a Craigs list ad; or met Dude just on the street. Girl who has has by now been identified as dude claims she was attacked by dude because she is dressed like a girl. But the facts are there is one seriously injured person and a dude pretending to be a girl. Do you really think that the police will conclude as follows: Man, dude dressed like girl (laugh, what a ........ [your choice of expletive]) was attacked by dude. We better arrest the bleeder who'se in hospital, 'cause he's the bad guy here. Do you think that is a likely outcome? Who do you think gets arrested?

    No weapon is a good means of defending yourself. I know it's unfair and all that, I have been at the receiving end just like you. But who do we want to be as human beings? I chose to be not one of them, never, I'd rather die.

    Kathryn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathryn Martin View Post
    Asako, I completely understand your point, however, there are are several things I'd like to say:

    Firstly, I found it absolutely astounding that not one person on here spoke about the obvious, how on earth would you advertise in Craigs list for a partner in the TV section and get anyone other than a creep trolling for meat? Do you think Craigs list is an appropriate place to find a romantic partner, or even a one night stand? And, with respect that is where Iztlacihuatl's story begins. Would prudence not dictate to be very circumspect with that outfit especially given the recent history or murders surrounding it.

    I am 56, I grew up in the 60s and 70s. I don't know what you think of those times but do you believe my world growing up was any less forgiving. I remember the bullying, the humiliation, the beatings, the being made fun of every day all the way through school and the many times I got home and swore I would never go again. I learned how to defend myself and gave many guys a black eye, for which invariably I was punished. This did not stop the violence but rather next time they were two guys beating me up. It escalated, and eventually I asked myself if I wanted to be the person who constantly lived in fear, carried a knife and lived with the possibility of having to do serious damage to someone else. It is often the choice of whether you can't live because you are being violently attacked or you can't live with yourself because you violently defend yourself. The beatings and the humiliation got so bad eventually at age 15 that my parents took me out of the school and sent me to a boarding school in England (I grew up in Germany) a thousand miles from home where I had a chance to get a fresh start. When I returned one year later, I was no longer the center of the attention of the bullies and kind of slipped under the radar after that. I still have nigthmares. Worst of it all I didn't understand why this was happening to me, but I guess I was great punch bag because I always was visibly disturbed and unhappy and hurt after those events.

    Now then let's get to the knife issue. Tell me what you think about the following: Police are investigating a stabbing in some alley, where a girl is standing over some dude who is bleeding from several knife wounds and moaning. Except turns out girl is a dude too, who as it turns out met dude through a Craigs list ad; or met Dude just on the street. Girl who has has by now been identified as dude claims she was attacked by dude because she is dressed like a girl. But the facts are there is one seriously injured person and a dude pretending to be a girl. Do you really think that the police will conclude as follows: Man, dude dressed like girl (laugh, what a ........ [your choice of expletive]) was attacked by dude. We better arrest the bleeder who'se in hospital, 'cause he's the bad guy here. Do you think that is a likely outcome? Who do you think gets arrested?

    No weapon is a good means of defending yourself. I know it's unfair and all that, I have been at the receiving end just like you. But who do we want to be as human beings? I chose to be not one of them, never, I'd rather die.

    Kathryn
    The way you put that is fantastic. Especially that 2nd to last paragraph. Which person seems more suspicious?

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    First thing. Don't advertise on Craigslist! Stick to this website. He definitely is a creep... Major creep.

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    The village Idiot Asako's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathryn Martin View Post
    Firstly, I found it absolutely astounding that not one person on here spoke about the obvious, how on earth would you advertise in Craigs list for a partner in the TV section and get anyone other than a creep trolling for meat? Do you think Craigs list is an appropriate place to find a romantic partner, or even a one night stand? And, with respect that is where Iztlacihuatl's story begins. Would prudence not dictate to be very circumspect with that outfit especially given the recent history or murders surrounding it.
    Here I was thinking it was another one of those ridiculous "on-line" dating sites. No, I'm not being sarcastic about that either. I really mean that's what I thought the site was. I have to admit, now having an idea of the site's nature, that I too wonder what was being thought at the time.

    Sounds like you had a childhood somewhat similar to mine. Constant harassment, being bullied left and right. Occasionally fighting because there was no other option. It wasn't until my parents moved in my junior year of high school that I got to experience my first "normal" day in school. "normal" as in what you described. Being left alone, not having to constantly look over my shoulder, or being afraid to use the bathrooms on campus.

    I would rather be the "guy in a dress" getting arrested for Assault with Deadly Intent than the victim waking up in the hospital seeing their parents worrying about them. Assuming I wasn't found dead in a ditch. My oldest sister was stalked and harassed by ex-BF while living on her own until my dad happened to see him in the grocery store. My dad had a little "chat" with him(slammed him into a metal display and threatened him) and the stalker went running to his dad crying like a child. When the stalker's dad found out the whole story, it got resolved real quick with the stalker getting put on ice. Best case scenario. Who's to say the OP will be so lucky?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kathryn Martin View Post
    No weapon is a good means of defending yourself. I know it's unfair and all that, I have been at the receiving end just like you. But who do we want to be as human beings? I chose to be not one of them, never, I'd rather die.
    Your choice is made. At least you aren't a sheeple who walks into the slaughter house. ;P I apologize for my hostility before but I stand beside what I said. If I am ever attacked by someone, I will return their intent of harm. I will avoid taking their life unless they pull a gun. If a gun gets pulled, all bets on trying to preserve their life are off because my chance of survival just entered a range of 10% or less.

    Seems like the issue between us is a matter of morals and very personal decisions based on our experiences. *hugs Kathryn* I respectfully drop the issue and apologize for getting you worked up.
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    Have you consider the possibility that the person may be another crossdresser that want you to stay away from CL for your own good or someone that you date before and is jealous

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    Touche..... I also was not exactly nice in the way I first responded. And I agree, whatever makes us look in the mirror in the morning and makes us like what we see.... as I said I completely understand your point, it was not lost on me.....

    Please take care of yourself. That's what I want to say every day to everyone here, and so I hug you back

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    Ok so two things. I will be careful and stay of CL. Thank you all for your perspectives and advice. I will be careful for my safety and if I were to be out to be honest that is not so bad as to being attacked. If its none of that then wtvr.

    Now can this thread be removed plz?
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    Tell the "expletive deleted" that you have a rich friend who has volunteered to have the "Blank Angels" give him a little visit.

    There is nowhere to hide, nobody to cry to, it WILL happen..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yolanda_Voils View Post
    Tell the "expletive deleted" that you have a rich friend who has volunteered to have the "Blank Angels" give him a little visit.

    There is nowhere to hide, nobody to cry to, it WILL happen..
    Um.. that's a bad idea.

    All the person did was say "I know you live at wherever apartments" which really does not indicate anything whatsoever about his or her intentions, just that he or she knows who the OP is.. Everything else is speculation, and to respond to this with a threat is not only something which may have negative consequences, but can also end in criminal charges being filed for making threats.

    Naturally the OP is concerned, but I feel she's more concerned that someone whom knows who she is knows her secret and that's the real problem here for the OP

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