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    As you know, people do not change overnight, nor do people change others. People do however, sometimes deceive themselves into thinking this is possible. (New Year’s Eve resolutions, etc.). Even in small matters like “habits”, it takes around 21 days to elicit the change (moving a light switch…takes you about 21 days before you quit reaching out to the old switch location when you come in the room).

    So then, what’s up with her sudden “change of heart” on what was such a heated issue? Here are a few possible motivations for her behavior…

    -Hidden agendas as divorce strategies (usually suggested/implanted by attorneys). One typical strategy is to keep the opposition “happy” and “amicable” as long as possible to foster cooperation and generosity in the division of property and other matters.
    Divorce is not a “friendly” process. Everything that divorce litigants do has a specific pre-planned strategy behind it. When attorneys are involved, you can count on it.

    -Being antagonist is an expensive luxury in divorce proceedings. Both parties lose a lot of money by taking that position. (Attorney fees). This is one critical reason to control your attorney rather than have them control the process. Their “strategies” may be unnecessary or lengthy which increase the billable time.

    -Emotions and egos are at stake. Nobody wants everybody to think they are the “bad guy” in a divorce. Being “nice” is one typical strategy to give the appearance that the other party is the aggressor and they are the “helpless victim” just defending themselves against injustice.

    -Sometimes a shift in attitude helps to offset unforeseen circumstances that arise which have potential to change others’ impression of them. (kids find out “Dad” is not the ******* that “Mom” had portrayed him being). So a shift to being “nice” is a ploy to recover the moral support of the kids, which is shifting in favor of the other parent. Nothing worse than having your kids thinking you tricked them into disliking a parent.

    -It is easier to “open up” to and/or be amicable with people when you know you will not have any vested interest in their life in the future. Things become “interesting” instead of “intolerable” when you know you they will no longer be affecting you personally.

    -Regardless of the stress and pain a relationship may have caused, it is still the end of a significant part of both partners’ lives. Once the decision has been accepted and the due diligence is complete, there is really nothing to be gained by being nasty with the other party. Taking the time to acknowledge that the relationship was important is a positive step for both parties. It helps both parties look back without feeling the time invested was just “wasted time”.

    -When you have children, you are divorcing your ex, but your responsibility as a parent continues. “Walking away” is only possible when you do not share children with your “ex”. Having children will require continual interaction with your ex. It is both parties’ best interest to cooperate with each other in the future. It is without question that this is in the best interest for any children involved. It is an incredible challenge to put aside personal differences with your ex in favor of minimizing the negative emotional impact of divorce on your children. But it is the right thing to do.

    Then again, maybe you are just the recipient of a miracle. That one-in-a-million chance with the winning ticket. Your wife miraculously changed overnight. She changed her personality, her attitude with you, her views on crossdressing and her outlook on life as well. Hey, anything is possible…it happens on TV all the time…and if it is on television, then you know it has to be true…cough,cough…

    Just my thoughts,

    Whatever the outcome, I wish you well…

    p.s. On this topic...it is probably wise to "do as I say, not as I do".
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    Hi Michelle. I have had many friends divorce in the past, and what seems so strange is that their near end was very much like what you just experienced. After they finalized, most of them became better and closer as freinds than they ever were as husband and wife. Go figure.

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    Yeah, once it is decided that divorce is the answer, like my ex and I did, there is nothing more to fight about.
    Maybe you two can still be friends, especially if you have kids, but maybe just not be married.

    I would imagine if you guys decided not to file, there would be all these conditions imposed.
    I say really talk about things, even stuff neither of you wants to bring up. If it looks like tons of "do this, don't do that" is said, maybe it is time to move on.

    I know my ex and I still lived together for 3 months after we had a serious talk about divorce, but we went thru with it, just too many differences we could not deal with.
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    I agree with Ruth. Distance makes the heart grow fonder. I think it could be the sheer relief that it is all over, that is making her so nice. I think she essentially likes you a lot. But that does not mean that you will have a smooth time second time around. Sorry to take the contrary opinion to what the rest have said.

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    Michelle...it does take time and sometimes, a major "shock" before our partners, or in fact, ourselves wake up. Reading your post brought back memories for me...somewhat of a similar situation, but different in many ways, and then now, after all those years ago, we are back together, moving on, and looking forward to the future. I too had to take it slowly...we lived apart, didn't share much, but did stay in contact...as if we were dating all over again - one word of advice if I may --- slowly.

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    She wrote me an email last night that she definitely wants to get back together but the problems won't just go away. I have changed over the last couple of years and she hasn't. I am almost afraid that I will end up back in the rut and giving up my dreams like I have done for 27 years. We are on oppposite sides of the Grand Canyon and I don't know what to do except live our lives separate and as happy as possible.

    Love is a very powerful force becasue it does hold you in place but sometimes love just isn't enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by erickka View Post
    Hi Michelle. I have had many friends divorce in the past, and what seems so strange is that their near end was very much like what you just experienced. After they finalized, most of them became better and closer as freinds than they ever were as husband and wife. Go figure.
    Not in my case. And I'm talking about two ex wives.
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    I will be the same way with my SO when the day comes for me to file for divorce.I love him I will always love him but I would want a non Cder for a husband.I knew my SO wore girl clothes before we were married and he understated how often and why he wore them.He never once mentioned the sex aspect of it as it related to him/her.Nor everything else that was attachedto his CDing.If I had full discloser we would never have married but been best of friends.As I suspect we will be when our time comes to end our marriage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKAMichelle View Post
    Love is a very powerful force becasue it does hold you in place but sometimes love just isn't enough.
    Yes!! That is what I believe. Love is a requirement, but without the mutual respect to be your own people, and grow as individuals, it won't work out. Do you have that? My wife read something to me about the optimum relationship. Essentially, it describes it as being like a dance in that the two partners are definitely engaged in a dance together, yet within the dance they drift apart to perform their own steps. They're still dancing with each other yet are exploring their own expression.

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    Sometimes "love" isn't enuff, Michelle!

    If u stop liking, respecting, or tolerating your SO, u may NOT be able to live together!

    That was tru for me and my ex. My "love" lasted for YEARS after we separated. But, I knew I couldn't live with her again!

    However, I don't understand why u need a divorce to live separately? It sounds like you're doing that NOW and things r kind of OK?

    The divorce process itself can be VERY disruptive!
    U can't keep doing the same things over and over and expect to enjoy life to the max. When u try new things, even if they r out of your comfort zone, u may experience new excitement and growth that u never expected.

    Challenge yourself and pursue your passions! When your life clock runs out, you'll have few or NO REGRETS!

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    Just my 2 cents worth. It sounds like when you are honest with yourself you know down deep that a relationship as husband & wife will not hold up. It also sounds like a great friendship could and is developing. You will not ever be completely seperated because you have children in the middle. From their perspective it might be more comforting to know that their parents are friends that love each other instead of a married couple with constant tension in both their lives. I wish all of you the best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKAMichelle View Post
    She wrote me an email last night that she definitely wants to get back together but the problems won't just go away.
    The problems don't go away when you walk out the door. Your current problems might diminish, but many others will come.

    You have a family; children with a wife who wants to stay with you. From the outside looking in, it seems like you could have it all. An intact family, and the chance to control your own destiny when it comes to crossdressing.

    I obviously don't know all your history, but it seems like you really should give more consideration to ending your marriage. At least see what your wife is willing to accept. You are kind of in the driver's seat now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKAMichelle View Post
    I took her a dozen roses as a thank you for her kindness. So I didn't forget how to be a gentleman. :D
    [SIZE="3"]Very nice touch ... flowers are always appropriate ... ;^)[/SIZE]
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    Love and compatability are often two different issues that, in a romantic moment, some people try to ignore or deny. Relationships and marriage bring out the worst in our ability to make rational, realistic decisions regarding our future.

    We can probably thank television and movies for some of our distorted thinking during emotional events.
    As much as we would all like people to overcome overwhelming obstacles in their relationships and "live happily ever after", we will still require television soap operas and movies to witness most of those stories.

    The best predictor of future behavior is past performance. In many cases, after the romance of the moment fades, you are left with the historical reality of the past, which rarely changes.

    I think you are thinking extremely well (logically), considering the emotional arena that surrounds divorce.

    Good Luck
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    Michelle, from my experiences of trying to figure things out in the world. I have learned that some people can be at a party and talk about anything under the sun. And if cd'ing come up, I have found that a large majority will say, I see nothing wrong with crossdressing. But when it is in their own back yard, then those that were once for it can then take objection to it. But like in your case it's backwards, it's like when it was in your wife's back yard, she opposed, but now when she lays in bed at night and thinks of how her life is going to be without you, she's all for it. I really do think that maybe the two of you may want to reconcider the divorce, but as you've said, you have grown apart on so much over the years. Juts foloow your heart, only you know what is best for the both of you. I wish you all the best. But it does sound like that after the divorce, the 2 of you can still talk on the phone sometimes, and can end it sometimes with "I love you".

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    Quote Originally Posted by erickka View Post
    Hi Michelle. I have had many friends divorce in the past, and what seems so strange is that their near end was very much like what you just experienced. After they finalized, most of them became better and closer as freinds than they ever were as husband and wife. Go figure.
    This is what has happened to me as well with my X,(married 16 yeasrs now divorced for 11 years) we are great friends now a and are thinking on maybe getting back together, She is ready but I am not. The past still haunts me with all the problems we have had. I am afraid that they will show there ugly head again. I have told her she could stay with me if she needed. And she does from time to time, but after a wile I am ready for her to go. I think I got used to living a lone so much so that I am not happy when some one is around all the time. I think that it is because I do not feel comfortable dressing in front of her and I begin to miss it. She said it is ok and does not have a problem with it so in this case it is just me who does.
    Mistybtm :belly:

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    My whole problem is that I know some of the issues which we have will not go away. They can get buried but they will be back at some point in the future. I just don't want to go back into the marriage and end up being miserable.
    Michelle

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    If you are happy where you are now, stay there, michelle.

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