Thanks Stevie, I hate to say I think your right but I think you may be on to something. She says things like when I asked her what she wanted for Christmas this year her comment was a massage at a salon and a real man to be with for an evening following that up with because I dont want to be with her. I sometimes think we both would be so much happier apart but it tears me up inside that the kids will be sad. But then again that would only be temporary I suppose if we werent together fighting all the time they may enjoy it as well. I am curious do you go out dressed now, shave body manicure pedicure all of that????