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Sara ... excluding yourself, since for you dressing is a costume, what do you think drives the desire to transcend gender roles and/or presentation for the bulk of the CDs in this forum who enjoy looking, feeling, and acting like women on occasion?
veronica27 has already added a lot on this side of the discussion, and i can't add to that as i am not "other cd". But a person who "transcends gender roles" on occasion doesn necessarily self-identify as a woman, when dressed. They might feel feminine, but that is different. I have seen posts from cd's saying they cant find inner woman, or just want to feel feminine, or do it as a fetish. I have seen posts saying cd'ing is something which they just "DO". Even drag queens crossdress on the "occasion", but they still retain their male "self-identity". Some cd's don't even have a female name on this site and go with something like "pantywearer", "delaware blonde" etc There are probably million's of cd'ers out there who "get off" to wearing SO's clothes but would never self-identify as a woman and would never come out to anyone as there is no incentive. You said you agreed to my post http://www.crossdressers.com/forums/...3F#post2629223

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Also, have you read my post #173?
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I propose that a man who CDs knows no other way of being a male, and therefore he imagines that he feels the same way about his gender identity as any male who does not CD. But, if he were to temporarily inhabit the non-CD's mind and body, he might discover a total revulsion for wearing anything that is feminine. Do both these men have the same male-identity?
Just food for thought.
non-cders are not monsters and they too feel feminine(calm, caring, weak etc). Even if there is revulsion to others crossdressing, they still have a male identity. And don't expect every guy to give a same answer to "how do you define a male?". Media mostly plays a big role in affecting one's perceptions.