You missed my point . I was talking about taking you views and observations and make it into a blanket statement . I know a lot of guys that get upset when their hobbies or what they do for fun gets interrupted. But once again most of the CD's I know don't have that complaint. I know lots that take the winters months off . One thing I've found are the ones that go out tend not to have those complaints . A lot of what I see on this board I do not see in the bahvior ofthe CD's I know and that go out .