Pure guesswork here.
Something between 5 and 10% have tried it, probably less than 2% do it on anything like a regular basis.
If it didn't have such a stigma attatched, maybe 20% would adopt female clothing, skirt, kilt, stockings, panties etc
How many would actually try for a female persona? Don't have any idea, but I think not many would keep it up after trying it.
"Normal is what you get when you average out the weirdness that everybody has." Quote from my SO
Normal is a setting on a washing machine, or another word for average.
The fact that I wear a skirt as a male should not be taken as a comment on what you do, or do not wear, or how you wear it.
Easy, take the number of breastforms sold...and divide by two.
I'd have to include me in this percentage then......I only tried it once, I just never stopped!Originally Posted by clayfish
Rebecca
Hey Colleen,
I don't remember giving rights to publishing my CD life story!
Rebecca
well, maybe the number sold in pairs. Unfortunately, a lot of breast forms are sold to breast cancer survivors.
It is impossible to know because crossdressing men are better at keeping secrets than the CIA.
As far as breastforms go.....no good. I have 3 sets...
I heard on the radio one morning, and thus no source, that 1 in 8 men will wear women's underwear for a kick, 1 in 10 wear it regularly, and 1 in 100 wear women's clothing. In a conversation with a SA at 'la vie en rose', a canadian lingerie chain, I was told that men shop for themselves daily, and hardly any of them try on. The numbers sound high, but if in my town of 105,000 people, and the lingerie store gets one of us daily, it could be right.-Celeste
P.S. The real meat of the matter- How many men secretly want to? My guess- Lots
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I agree - maybe that's why we allow ourselves to believe the higher end percentages reported. That and the large numbers we know fly under the radar. The question I keep asking myself is, if there are really so few of us, why is it everytime Payless runs a sale, all the size 11's are gone by the time I get on the site?
Wendy
I can think of one way to figure out a value if someone really wanted to know.
GG's feet are in a range of shoe sizes that if plotted will form a bell curve.
If only GGs purchased women' shoes we'd expect the shoe sales bell curve to match the curve of women's feet.
We know better than that. Men do buy women's shoes and the shoe sales bell curve is very likely distorted toward the larger sizes.
So, find the proportion of shoes sold that fall outside of the GG bell curve and you have the number of womens' shoes sold to males. From there it wouldn't be hard to calculate the proportion of males in the general population that own women' shoes and that would be a pretty fair representation of the number of crossdressers.
Eryn
"These girls have the most beautiful dresses. And so do I! How about that!" [Kaylee, in Firefly] [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
"What do you care what other people think?" [Arlene Feynman, to her husband Richard]
"She's taller than all the women in my family, combined!" [Howard, in The Big Bang Theory]
"Tall, tall girl. The woman could hunt geese with a rake!" [Mary Cooper, in The Big Bang Theory]
I don't know any stats on the actual number of crossdressers, or even an estimate, but I do know one person who is absolutely a crossdresser.
Luv andJill
Straight, into Fantasy Land
Not sure what the percentages might be, but when I had my clearance (above top secret) in the 80's, anything of the sort, homosexuality, Cd, or anything out of the ordinary was taboo, and you would loose your clearance, weather you wanted to hide it or not.
We will all be long dead before any accurate numbers ever substantiated. Just like questioning how many people are gay, some 50 years ago, admission was a dangerous thing. However, today we know to a scientific accuracy that about 10% of the population is gay. In my mind, there is no question that crossdressers are a smaller % than homosexuals. I think we are a fraction of a percent.
I know some U.S. universities have done studies. One very old I remember saying that 0.004% of the population could be CD, based on surveys of students, but that could rise to 0.04% on fears of a high percentage to confess, and some others should not consider using female undergarments under their clothes out to be CD.
I will try to find those studies and get back to you.
I remember reading in a magazine, back in the late 1970s, that one of the studies, might have been Masters & Johnson or Kinsey, suggested that 75% of all male respondents had dressed up in one or more items of women's clothing, and enjoyed it, at least once.
According to http://www.transgenderlaw.org/resour...sfactsheet.pdf
I suspect that the distribution of the population is also not evenly distributed. There are many states where CDs and Transgenders are better protected, and many states where they have no protection at all.An estimated 2 to 5% of the population is transgender (i.e., experience some degree of gender
dysphoria). The number of people who identify as transsexual and undergo sex-resassignment is
smaller. Recent statistics from the Netherlands indicate that about 1 in 12,000 natal males undergo
sex-reassignment
This is very likely an under-count due to persecution, in San Francisco, a place known for it's tolerance, we see this statistic:Jurisdictions with Transgender Explicit Non-Discrimination Laws
States: 16 + D.C. (California, Colorado, Connecticut, D.C.,
Hawaii, Illinois, Iowa, Maine, Massachusetts, Minnesota,
Nevada, New Jersey, New Mexico, Oregon, Rhode Island,
Vermont, Washington)
Cities and Counties: 143
Numbers of people protected: 119,041,592 (about 44% of the population)
3
In another survey - much smaller sample, we see that the Transgender population is a much smaller portion of a much larger group.83% reported verbal abuse
because of their gender identity or
gender presentation
37% reported physical abuse
46% reported employment
discrimination
37% reported housing
discrimination
from: http://transvestitestoday.moonfruit....000/4527944836
If we then do a bit of mathematical extrapolation, we should multiply the transgendered population (2-5%) times the 9 (11% is 1/9th or so).- which could suggest that the total population, including CDs, TVs, and TGs, would be somewhere between 20% and 50%Transvestites Crossdressers Transgendered
Perceived identity 71% 18% 11%
A Williams Institute Study based on the California survey, suggests an even that there are 700,000 transgender people in the entire united states, but again, we probably need to multiply that by a larger number, perhaps double to get the number of CDs, and times 7 to get the number of transvestites, again using the multiplier of 9, we would get roughly 6.3 million for the whole population. There may be an even larger number who are fetish dressers, wearing only specific items of clothing for sexual pleasure.
I suspect that this is still a low estimate, and that the 75% that covers all of those who wear one or more items of women's clothing and find some form of emotional and/or sexual pleasure from it - would be a plausible number,
CDs and Transsexuals may get sexual pleasure from dressing, but often their desire goes much deeper than that, and gives them emotional satisfaction, comfort, and even spiritual release.
It is always fun to see the responses to these types of unanswerable questions. I would guess that a man wearing an item of womens clothing on a continuing basis would be at the 1% or smaller. I would think that those who have tried something, maybe once, would be much higher.
But I am unique, so there is only one in the whole statistical pool like me, or you.
Barbara
He (she) who would learn to fly one day must first learn to stand and walk and run and climb and dance.
- Friedrich Nietzche -
I may never get to fly like the other girls, but I do so want to dance, so I continue to climb.
http://www.vernoncoleman.com/andwhydosome.htm
This well known British crossdresser suggests 10%.
Personally, and from my own experience chatting with other GGs (including my recent discovery of another CD wife within my own small group of friends!) I'd say you're not as original as you think.
You might just be more vocal
There is a huge problem with your question that you acknowledge. There are many folks [almost all men] at this Forum who keep claiming [over and over] that a woman is a CDer because she wears pants... or a flannel shirt or possibly any article of clothing that men mormally wear... If 100 people claim it 100 times... it's STILL not true. You would have to specify YOUR own definition of what makes someone a CDer... which would obviously differ for many folks.
My own "educated" guess based on multiple sources is at least 50% of men have "done it" more than once, and probably 75% who have at least tried it. Very few "progress" simply because they don't feel shame or guilt.
The bottom line is that probably 90% of men on the planet [at the very least] are VISUAL creatures, which is THE foundation of the vast majority of CDers. The P&V gallery here offers ample evidence even at this particular Forum.
Women in general are NOT nearly as "susceptible" to their vision as are men. Which is the major reason WHY so few of them are CDers. And also THE reason that most of them will never be able to "understand" a very large aspect of it.
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Well, to put it in perspective, in a high school with 1,000 males this would mean that 10 of them crossdress. I have no idea how accurate this is, but it seems high to me. Some people who responded in this thread have suggested higher percentages that include males who have tried it once. I don't compare these males with the crossdressers who participate in this forum, who do crossdress habitually. This is like saying that a person who has smoked a handful of cigarettes in their life is a smoker.
The following is a fairly recent source, in a report dated from 2011. They estimate one third of one percent of the population are transgender (.3%), a significantly smaller percentage than the total number of gay, lesbian, and bi, which is about 3.5%.
The .3% (which is one out of every 333 people) includes people who will and who will not transition. Note that the question identifies transgenders and not transsexuals.
The numbers are based on the Massachusetts Behavior Risk Factor Surveillance Survey, which is one of the few population-based data sources that includes a question designed to identity the transgender population. They've assumed that results in other states would correlate.
http://www.lgbttobacco.org/files/How...LGBT-Final.pdf
I've no idea how many crossdressers would identify as transgender. I'm guessing that if a person presents fully as a female on a regular basis, he will more likely identify as transgender than someone who does not attempt to present as a female at all. But, I'm guessing that if the numbers are guessed at by members of the TG community, they will tend to be higher than estimates from people who are not TG.
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Reine
That's interesting Reine. If 10 out of 1000 in a high school were to dress, that means there were four others in my highschool of 500! I wonder who they were
Concerning the survey, I think you're right. Not all crossdressers would necessarily identify as transgender, which would skew the results. I know I would just put male, especially if anyone was around and possibly watching! I think you are right though, if someone fully presents as female on a regular basis, perhaps when they are taking the survey, then they are more likely to respond as a transgender.
Hard question to answer!
Because we will never get the truth out of some men, we will never really get acurate stats on the subject. It is like that old saying, "90% percent of men masturbate, and the other 10% lie bout it". I guess that is why they add things like error factors into information being gathered. The other question that I wonder about is this, is any one culture or nationality, more or less prone to Cd'ing than the others?
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