Probably a British/American thing. But I know them as Knickers, panties sounds odd but only because it's just not used where I am.
Probably a British/American thing. But I know them as Knickers, panties sounds odd but only because it's just not used where I am.
Last edited by becky77; 12-16-2012 at 01:54 PM.
The word "panties" conveys such a feminine description of underwear or as the Brits say knickers. To me panties is such a great word, I love to say that I'm wearing panties. I'm wearing panties right now and I feel like such a girl.
I like it so much I think I repeat it my sleep. I'm afraid 35 years from now I'll be half sedated in some nursing home staring at the ceiling mumbling "Panties, Panties, Panties.......":D
I love the word panties sounds so feminine! I think they are cute and sexy all at the sametime!
We say panties and underwear, sometimes if a word has a certain connotation you can get rid of it by saying it over and over![]()
I love the word panties, I love wearing panties, I love seeing panties on women, I love shopping for panties, I love saying "panties"!
Straight, full-time crossdresser. I've always known this was something that I wanted/needed to do but suppressed it while I was married. Now that I'm going through a divorce it's time to go all out!
because each side was a pant leg (as in pull up your pant leg please) and when you had 2 sides you a pair of pants. so when they got shorter, their were called panties.
definition of pant leg:pant leg - definition of pant leg by the Free Online Dictionary ...
www.thefreedictionary.com/pant+leg
Noun, 1. pant leg - the leg of a pair of trousers. trouser leg · leg - a cloth covering consisting of the part of a pair of trousers that covers a person's leg. trouser ...
JUST a crossdresser
When I was a kid, boys wore "knickers," which were trousers that went down just below the knees and were held tight with elastic. One wore long socks, that is, thick cotton or wool stockings that drew up to below the knees, the tops of which went just under the bottoms of the knickers. "Knickers," in the U.S. I believe, is short for "knickerbockers," and are English in origin. "Plus fours" were knickerbockers with an added four inches of gathered fabric at the knees, to make that part of the garment blossom out, or to "blouse" more. "Briefs" are also used to mean panties here in the U.S. and in the U.K. And, of course, these days "thongs" are all the rage. What next?
In my neck of the woods the term panties refers to womens underwear and the term underwear can mean either mens or womens. For girls either word is used. To me the word panties just sounds more intimate than the more generic word of underwear.
All I ever wanted was to be a girl. Is that really asking too much?
I'm with slipstream. . .panties, panties, panties; I loves me some panties, and some bras, and pantyhose, and corsets, and high heels, and dresses, and skirts, and blouses, and makeup, and wigs, and on and on and on. Gotta love it, if you wear it.
Oh stop it girls you're making me blush! Isn't it strange how the human mind works? Just seeing the names of undergarments does something to me.
I personally love the word panties but here in Australia it is a word that is detested by most women. I notice that it seems acceptable in the US going by Victoria's Secret, HerRoom and other sites.
Lol I must be an incredibly specific underwear person. I usually state the style..."my thongs are doing the frontal wedge thing...I'm about to grab the scissors"..."I can't find my nude g-string...is it in the wash...what else am I supposed to wear with white pants?...This outfit is ruined"..."I know I wear a small now...so, these cheekies are a little big...but, I think I can just call them regular underwear now..."
I think when I'm referring to them in general, I use "underwear"...but, idk if I say "panties" sometimes....maybe? I do admit that it could come off a little creepy if a straight-up dude was using the word "panties." Idk why...I guess "panties" sounds slightly juvenile...maybe it sets off pedophile alarms in my mind. It may not be the alarm your looking for. But, if you're just using it around guys or maybe other mtf CDs that use the term, you probably don't have to worry about GGs quietly noting in their mind that you should not be touched with a 10ft pole. My list is long...and, I'm generally skeptical of proper male intentions with me...so, take this for what you will. But, I feel like being specific cant hurt. It gives you a visual of what you're talking about...which, could be good depending on what people might think you look like in a thong (or, "panties.") You might get admiring glances that you want...you might get creepy glances that just make you move awkwardly away from that person...or, you might scar people for life when they imagine you almost naked! Oh, the possibilities!
But, in general, it doesn't matter TOO much. You may earn the title "slightly weird" after using an inappropriate noun for your age/gender...for example, I'd die laughing if my grandmother referred to her "panties" (but, she doesn't because she's a lady). If you're a grown woman from the US, you probably use underwear. "Panties" might fall out of your mouth occasionally (figuratively), but it's probably not your "go-to" noun. If you're a man talking about your "panties" there's about a 97% chance you will come off slightly creepy, but there are always opportunities to redeem yourself in conversation so you don't come off as slightly pedo-ish. If I knew you were a CD, I'd probably just tease you and say, "Now, wait...you ARE a grown crossdresser, right? I just want to make sure this isn't To Catch a Predator and you aren't wearing Hello Kitty." (Not to knock Hello Kitty usage as an adult...actually, yes, I'm knocking it).
So, yeah, people are often a little cutesy when they say "panties." And, it takes some fly on the wall assessment if yourself to establish if you might be coming off as slightly creepy in female company. If you feel like you might be coming off a little strange, you might try to use "underwear." If the word "panties" slips out of your mouth, know that the women around you probably made a note of it and judged you slightly with a smile on their face (welcome to womanhood)...but, you generally can fly off the radar again if you carry on the conversation normally. If you think about it too much or apologize, you fail twice. So...try to get through that situation NOW that you know all of this.
Or, don't talk about your underwear except to people who should know about it. You know...that's the best rule of thumb. I could call my underwear my "genital cloths" in front of my SO and he wouldn't find me any stranger than he already finds me. I could probably say it to my girlfriends, and they'd probably try to use it in a sentence a week later. So, there you are... How about you use whatever terms you like in the proper company?
True life...people rarely actually talk about underwear(But, it could also be
because...sometimes...you really don't need the image in your mind of the person in his/her "panties"). P.S. in general company, the proclamation of your love for panties might come off as slightly strange (refer to the above sentence). And, I think people should do what makes them happy...maybe some people are blissfully unaware that they might be slightly socially inept...but, you know, whatever floats your boat...just know that "panties" aren't usually coming up that often in conversation, and if (IRL) you were to continue to tell me how prudish I am/declare your undying love for certain genital cloths, I'd raisemy glass to you and get on with my life... might even get you a VS card...or, just take my "underwear" off, put it in your pocket, and tell you to come up with a good noun for that prudishness. Then, we'd all buy a round of drinks and stop talking about underwear...I'd toast to that...and, toast to me going "commando"...I'd riddle you the proper word choice for going without genital cloths.
Last edited by Shananigans; 12-23-2012 at 12:52 AM.
"Today a young man [...] realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration...that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively...there is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves. Here's Tom with the Weather.”-Bill Hicks
“What freedom men and women could have, were they not constantly tricked and trapped and enslaved and tortured by their sexuality! The only drawback in that freedom is that without it one would not be a human. One would be a monster.” East of Eden by Steinbeck
I think, like Shananigans was posting, that using the term "panties" in general conversation is slightly weird for people above the age of, let's say, 35. Using it in a case of if someone asks what type of underwear you wear (like the boxers vs briefs thing, they are both underwear, but they function completely differently) calling them under the umbrella version of "panties" is okay, as long as you don't go crazy and say panties every five seconds. Heck, VS uses the term as an umbrella term for the cloth worn underneath pants, even though bras kinda count as underwear.
Also, like she mentioned, using a more specific term for things like thongs is appropriate in the right case.
I'm a guy who likes girls, I just like a little more about them than the average guy.
Bingo. If its coming up in conversation often enough that you're worried about it, you're probably doing it wrong. But, I'm 25...the only person I really know that talks about her panties us my cousin...she's 5...and, she's very proud of her Beauty and the Beast panties...and, her lack of social grace for me needing to tell her that we don't talk about our "panties" in the line at Subway is OK...because, she's 5.
"Today a young man [...] realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration...that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively...there is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves. Here's Tom with the Weather.”-Bill Hicks
“What freedom men and women could have, were they not constantly tricked and trapped and enslaved and tortured by their sexuality! The only drawback in that freedom is that without it one would not be a human. One would be a monster.” East of Eden by Steinbeck
Gosh just stumbled across this thread...already five pages deep! I am glad I'm not the only one with a major fetish for this word (as well as the item). Being a Brit it was always knickers, which while I do *like* that word, something about panties is just so utterly fem, sexy, and quite frankly pervy in a good way. Like a porn flick goodness. Buuuut, as many others have posted on here, SOs quite often do not like that word. My wife hates it, indeed she and her whole family refer to them as 'underwear', which of course is so blah and uninviting. To her, 'underwear' is just something you wear, well, under your clothes. Very little sexual/erotic element to her. I have to avoid that word with her because I know she hates it (oddly enough most of her So. Cal gal pals do too, yet I hear girls from the Mid West use it a fair bit - what a turn on, eh, chums?).
I still have trouble saying it aloud myself, as much as I love the sound of it...
This is one of my pet peeves with my wife - she refers to everything 'thong' as a 'Gee' (as in G-string). I have to grit my teeth and smile sweetly because I know what's good for me, but I so badly want to educate her properly on lingerie terminology!
Last edited by a1stephie; 12-23-2012 at 01:14 AM.
Yeah, plus little girls are known for pulling their dresses over their heads at places like church saying "Look at my panties. They have the day of the week on them." and stuff like that. If they only had video of that to be shown to all their friends later...much later...[must get blackmail ideas out of head]
Another thing, a guy using the term, especially in public (except for talking to SAs, the more specific you are with them on what you want, the better sometimes), but even in private situations, can come across as "invading the women's turf" by openly talking about something so private to women. Of course, like I said before, if you use the term to describe "switching" from briefs to "panties" (as an umbrella) then that works, somewhat. Saying you switched from briefs to underwear is a bit redundant sounding since briefs are underwear. BTW, I'm 23 and a guy, so for me to even be around when girls talk about their underwear feels extremely weird at times (and I can only recall one time that's happened, at least without at least one person in the conversation being my sister, and that's somewhat less weird because of our relations. Hey, live in a house with your mother, sister, and her having girl friends over a lot, and me being the quiet shy type that doesn't have friends over and my dad and mom being separated but hangs out in the living room or outside because you hate spending all your time in the bedroom, you hear a lot of girly conversation.)
I'm a guy who likes girls, I just like a little more about them than the average guy.
Lulz...I just read your post and it just fit almost perfectly with what I was saying...
I mean, I think it probably means more to you than the general public...I literally was scratching my head to figure out if I say "panties"...and, then, I got even more confused at panties being a proper term for "lingerie"...since, you know, it's a term usually for the undergarments of a little girl...the ones that are little in the way that they don't wear "lingerie." But, there you go.
I don't think I am in the Rad Fem crowd...I'd also say that I'm sexually comfortable and probably spend more money than I should on lingerie...BUT, it still doesn't change the fact that the overwhelming majority of women aren't walking around, talking about lingerie, just dripping with excitement at the thought of their frilly little things.
That's just the straight up truth right there. My SO and I can call it whatever we want...but, my underwear choices aren't as exciting to other people, because it's likely they'll never get the chance to see it. So...why tease?...I figured we were cruel enough already? If I'm trying to be sexy with my undergarments, I'd just flash a little thigh high or top of the bra...I don't have to go blabbering on about my panties. But, I've never encountered someone just adamantly talking at me about panties and "panties" as the proper term for lingerie... I'd probably not find that person very sexual...maybe less sexual than before they started on about their panties, actually. I guess I'm less talk and more action, but there you go.
Last edited by Shananigans; 12-23-2012 at 01:32 AM.
"Today a young man [...] realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration...that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively...there is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves. Here's Tom with the Weather.”-Bill Hicks
“What freedom men and women could have, were they not constantly tricked and trapped and enslaved and tortured by their sexuality! The only drawback in that freedom is that without it one would not be a human. One would be a monster.” East of Eden by Steinbeck
This may well just be a fundamental difference between a GG a cross dresser who started off with a lingerie/panty fetish - as you say, it just means more to us. I tried just now to flip the equation and imagine how I would feel if my wife was a female-male CD with a major men's underwear fetish. How would I react to her schooling me on if something was a boxer-brief, etc. and would I care if she kept using a term that irked me for a garment I don't typically give much thought to in everyday wear? Probably in a similar way to how she sees it with panties. And so, I do keep it to myself.
And yes, you are right, the term 'panties' does indeed refer to a girl's underwear, but of course has manifested into something else as well in today's lexicon. And you are right in how this has also incorrectly fallen under the 'lingerie' banner. It is so intriguing that so many of us can get so turned on, some intoxicated by this word, but there you go. It's a factMost likely most women do not blab about their panties, it's probably a total fantasy on our part!
I remember being a kid and taken to department stores with 'proper' lingerie departments on shopping trips. I think it was all 'knickers' then though. I can't honestly remember when I first heard the word 'panties' but I do know that for some inexplicable reason, I was hooked on it! I even recall looking it up in dictionaries and feeling oddly aroused by that, like it was some secret little naughty thing in a mostly mundane book!
Last edited by a1stephie; 12-23-2012 at 02:04 AM.
Something that I just thought of...a local Walmart has a somewhat small rack of little girls underwear (including bras, for the just hitting puberty types who are still too young for the grown up stuff). This has a banner above it (on the shelf, but still in typical Walmart style) that says something like "Foundations." Well, those of you have been in Walmart know where the women's stuff is located is called "Intimates." In both sections (Hey, ADD guy over here...I notice stuff others don't just because I have lingering eyes) they have the multipack of Hanes and Fruit Of The Loom panties. I am going to guess that both sections have similar packs too (I'm not going to look in the girls section to see if they have packs of briefs, bikinis, and hipsters or just one of the three or whatever. How weird would that be? It's weird enough for me to shop for women's underwear, being in the girls section would make me feel creepy.)
Anyway, I'm sure that Hanes and FTL make their womens underwear and girls underwear out of the same materials with the same quality and even some overlapping just a touch in size (like the really large older girls who parents feel are still too young to buy the stuff with a woman modeling them on the package). The difference though is how people look at the departments. A mother (or even a father, I don't want to alienate the men who shop for their daughters, or sons...I don't want to alienate the boys who like the pretty stuff) shopping for her kid isn't thinking of how "attractive" the underwear is. For that age range, underwear is still very utilitarian. It serves only one purpose, to modestly cover up what should be covered. A grown woman or a teenager shopping for herself, though, is probably thinking a few different things about the types of underwear she buys.
These are (at least from my perspective of looking at underwear) what I think goes through a typical girls mind when shopping for underwear:
1) These are comfortable to lounge around in or wear when I want to go to the grocery store.
These would be the every day styles (not too sexy, but still fun).
2) These are going to be the one I don't mind tossing if I have a little complication.
These would be the cheapest crap you could buy and probably aren't all that comfortable, but are easy to part with.
3) These are the ones I will wear when I need something that doesn't show that I'm wearing them but I know I am wearing them.
These would be things like thongs.
4) These are what I will wear when I want to surprise him or when I want to feel sexy.
This is where the lacy numbers come into play. Other items of lingerie get added in as well.
I'm a guy who likes girls, I just like a little more about them than the average guy.