"first" professional seminar

[Lorileah]

The woman who may have been lesbian may have viewed you as a interloper in that she does not see you as a woman and this combined with misandry which seems to be found at higher levels among lesbian woman combined with a form or radical feminism becomes extremely toxic.

It has been my experience that you have to be cautious with lesbian women until you have a sense of their attitudes toward transsexuals.

I think you might be overly sensitive except to the lesbian's mean look and that couple who avoided you big time. Can't say for sure about this lesbian, but many (some?) of them are biased against transwomen, whom they feel appropriate the female identity. And that couple might have had dinosaur attitudes in keeping with Archie Bunker. I suppose there will always be a few people in every crowd who refuse to get it

I had never had that experience with lesbians before, they had always seemed to take me in (knowing I wasn't a threat I suppose). See you learn something new everyday This lady was just angry, maybe she didn't want to be there. The two women with her are vet techs I have seen before, I don't remember seeing her ever before. So maybe her SO dragged her to the meeting. We were allowed a guest

Is there something I don't know about Vets?

to add to the above...yes, vets and vet techs will go to the electric chair if a free meal is included. Techs especially and can't blame them for what they get paid, can't live on Ramen forever

Knowing you, I can actually see the sarcasm dripping out of my monitor. I didn't know that was possible!

Me? Sarcastic? Not me.

However, change the tone of that phrase and it's a complete 180.

Good point. The plan is to desensitize them. With time they won't even notice me. .

Two other observations: I know that you like to dress up (and you always look nice), but maybe next time you could do business casual?

Don't know what that is. I hate when people post the details of what they wore but here goes, black panties, waist nipper, black cami with bra, Black knee length dress with floral pattern and Mary Janes with 1.5" heels. I thought it was very business but maybe not so casual?

Maybe you won't want to create as much of a visual separation from the others with the clothes?[

Well most the women were is scrubs...did I mention that I think scrubs are what you wear in surgery? I don't do outside the clinic in scrubs.

Also, maybe next time you could sit immediately beside someone who is already seated and start chatting with them?

It was a weird set up for a presentation...long table with chairs down either side. The opposite side of me was full and I sat across from the women who were already there. We did exchange pleasantries. This is what usually happens and these women were the ones who went about their business (after that one of the women I knew took the last open chair on that side.) When the long table filled (I guess they didn't plan more people) they opened up some high tops in another room and placed them in the doorways. The people who reacted unexpectedly (that is what I am going with now) came late (weather sort of sucked and the place was hard to find...so...) And yes I was hyper observant. Cat...rocking chair...you know. For all I know I would have gotten the same reaction as a male because I would have been unusual still (men are getting to be the minority in veterinary medicine) and I would have been dressed , well nicely then also.

I'm very sorry that you felt bad and I hope that the next seminar will be more pleasant.

We shall see. There is a huge seminar at the end of the month, hundreds (ok maybe 120) people, all walks of the profession, all day long (5 hours credit...and cocktails!!). It is a Sunday, so no one will getting off work and they will dress accordingly. Suits and ties for presenters and sales reps only. The women will be in the whole spectrum, even some in skirts. Overall I expected the usual glance look away glance again, I didn't expect the evil look nor the wide berth. I expect that on the Sunday it will be a little different, probably because I won't be seeing everyone and I will know a few more people who are going to be stunned. Stay tuned.