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    How can we change our view in society. Well, it's happening already. Most kids are way more accepting than say, even 20 years ago, and most of those kids will turn into tolerant adults. Education. Learn tolerance; and learning that there's no danger from gay, ts, tg, cd, etc.. It's coming. It's just going to take time, and we live in a society where everyone wants everything right now. Ain't gonna happen. I don't think I'll see in in my lifetime. And I'm o.k. with that.
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    Why don't we understand our desire to dress, behave and feel like a girl? Because from childhood, boys are told that the worst possible thing we can be, is a sissy. This feeling is so ingrained into our psyche, that we will suppress any thoughts that connect us to being or wanting to be feminine, even to the point of creating separate personalities to assign those female feelings into.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katey888 View Post
    - Before you even go looking for a closeted bigwig to come swishing and click-clacking out of the closet, take a look at the entire western world and western culture and name THREE, serious, influential, crossdressing individuals -
    David Williams, Eddie Izzard, David Bowie, Tilda Swinton, James Franco, Ellen Degenres spring to mind readily.

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    Patience is the only answer. But frankly I don't have the energy it takes to carry this cross.

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    Miss is right, it is going to take time. It is happening but it is going to take alot of time. And I agree that we probably won't see the change in our lfetime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adina View Post
    David Williams, Eddie Izzard, David Bowie, Tilda Swinton, James Franco, Ellen Degenres spring to mind readily.
    Adina - I'm sorry, you must have missed the serious and influential part...

    Actors, musicians, celebrities, artists... exactly my point - they are not taken seriously and they are rarely influential in policy for legislation or societal changes that have a real impact on peoples' lives and understanding. I might give you Ellen DeGeneres as being the most influential but I don't believe most of her audience will perceive of her as a crossdresser: they see her as lesbian and don't look any further.

    Even if you look at the LGB community there are still a relatively small number - I'd love to see someone doing it seriously but I think we overestimate both the extent of our pervasiveness and the numbers out there who really care about the CD/TG/TS world... Another good reason to remain allied and strengthen the bonds with LGB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katey888 View Post
    I'd love to see someone doing it seriously but I think we overestimate both the extent of our pervasiveness and the numbers out there who really care about the CD/TG/TS world... Another good reason to remain allied and strengthen the bonds with LGB.

    Katey x
    So, ASSUMING that 90%+ of politicians, judges, top law-makers are all into S&M, how does that angle work?

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    This has always been interesting to me. Joan of Arc was burned for religious opposition to female to male crossdressing. From Diane Keaton in Annie Hall to Catherine Hepburn. women have casually and accepabtably crossdressed forever in suits, jeans, hats and boots. Yet I think the majority of our kind are heterosexual. Male homosexuals rarely adopt female dress.
    Ellen Degeneres highlights one of the curiousities. Many lesbians still dress overtly in male clothes as identification. However the grandest majority of male crossdressers are hetero...and don't associate their preferred clothing and hairdressing as sexual...
    Rambling.....Verklempt (Mike Myers on SNL) talk among yourselves...
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    Things are achangin'. I recently took part in an online survey asking what I thought about a revamped web site. When it came to the bit about me, age, ethnic origin etc the "sex" question was, "What gender do you present as?". That is a huge leap forward in terms of enlightened thinking. It shows a growing awareness that gender isn't set in stone.
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    :-) "presenting" anthropologically-speaking is to place oneself in sexual readiness to a partner ...

    but seriously, I like the progress, "dress as" would be better!
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    I used to believe this, now I'm in the company of many tiggers. A tigger does not wonder why she is a tigger, she just is a tigger.

    thanks to krististeph: tigger = TG'er .. T-I-GG-er

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    Carly,

    It's mostly misconceptions others have on what a crossdresser is and what they assume.
    think the best thing we can do is while out represent ourself in the best possible way.

    While out if others have questions I encourage them to ask rather that than they just assume something that is incorrect.

    And Kudos to your wife for being so supportive.
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    This is a topic that becomes more and more important to me as time wears on. The fact that I feel the pressure to be ashamed and disgusted with something that I so very much enjoy, because of the society that has been created by ignorant and prejudiced human beings, frustrates and irritates me more and more. I didn't read all of the posts in this thread, but I did come across one pointing out the fact that within our society, women and feminine traits are still seen as weak and submissive. So a man who's supposed to be -insert typical acceptable male trait-, desires not to conform and display "weaker" feminine traits is going to be seen as inferior and ridiculed. Just think about the derogatory terms that are used as insults amongst men. We all know what they are so it doesn't bear repeating, but they almost always refer to something female. I often wonder if our society becomes more accepting of the fact that women are fully and unequivocally equal human beings to men, transgender individuals might be more accepted.
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    Be good normal people. If we show the world were good people slowly But surely people will become more accepting.
    Last edited by Zeldamoonflower; 02-27-2015 at 08:03 AM. Reason: only half finished a post

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    There are no Asian activist MtFs or at least crossdressers who work (fight, crusade) for their rights. And still almost every Japanese Okamas and Thai Katoeys wish to remain as prostitutes and it somewhat sullies their image

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeldamoonflower View Post
    Be good normal people. If we show the world were good people slowly But surely people will become more accepting.
    This ^ I try and do what I can on the online space but it's going to be a slow fight.
    People are far more accepting than ever before although I still hear people in their late teens use derogatary terms and what not.
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    In another thread I said that in my neck of the woods, cross dressing is is accepted by most people. I have gone dressed most of the time. I also wear makeup even when I am in guy mode, especially eye makeup. Once in a while someone will say something about it and I just tell them that I like to dress attractively and ask them if they think it looks nice. I have never had a bad response. One time I thought I was going to be attacked by a man who was angry and asked me why I was wearing eye shadow. I told him it was none of his business. He began to shout at the top of his voice. Later , I found out that he was a pastor of a Cult Church that preaches intolerance and meddles into every ones life if they can.
    The thing that we all have to remember is that we will not be accepted by every one and to act as though we have rites. Be as pleasant as possible and look the best that we can, act the best that we can. Nice people are more acceptable, regardless of how the look.

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