Let me see here... since 1975, i've likely lost ( forced or stuck in drabman position) 12 years of unhappy polyester existence...that would mean out of 42 years I only held on to 30 tolerable ones. All of the "lost" years were spread out, not one continuous 12 year run...
Michelle, I once also heard the "real man" garbage... That one turned out a complete disaster for my oh so lucky ex! ha! Karma the bitch rules apply