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    Quote Originally Posted by noname View Post
    Women are not looked down on for wearing makeup, so why should I. People just assume a women wears makeup because she likes the color/look whatever. Why can't they make that same assumption for me?
    I hate to break it to you, but the reason they don't make that assumption about you is, hold your breath, YOU'RE NOT A WOMAN, YOU'RE A MAN! unless you are enfemme and then, maybe you are too ugly for makeup seriously, think abnout real issues between men and women. for example: domestic violence happens to women (mostly) whether or not they are beautiful or ugly. so do rapes. and many times the victim is reviled because "She was asking for it" perhaps by wearing makeup? dude, get over it. you're a guy in a women's sectioon of the store.. go enfemme, then see what happens. :2c:

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    domestic violence happens to women (mostly)
    Actually that is untrue.

    http://www.csulb.edu/~mfiebert/assault.htm

    The majority of what you have to say, is mostly negative towards women....... why is that?? You moan we can wear what we like, you whinge about this that and the other.... and now your complaining that ugly women get attention..... what is it with you??
    Oh I dunno.... perhaps I would like to be treated with the same dignity and repect gg's get. I guess I find it upsetting that my gender does allow me such. I don't think there is a person on the planet that likes to be treated differently because of genetics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noname View Post
    Actually that is untrue.

    http://www.csulb.edu/~mfiebert/assault.htm



    Oh I dunno.... perhaps I would like to be treated with the same dignity and repect gg's get. I guess I find it upsetting that my gender does allow me such. I don't think there is a person on the planet that likes to be treated differently because of genetics.

    don't do the web stats as general rule, because for every one that says that women are more aggressive there are countless others, including the national institute of health that debunk that. so, no arguement about treating others with respect. our culture treats men like men and women like women. how they present. we are not yet at the point where everyone is treated with respect.
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query

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    I've been to the cosmetic counter buying products in drab. They don't care. If they pull out a trowel you might be at the wrong counter. But they were nice to me.

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    They are in business to sell things. Women buy most of the cosmetics, men hardly ever buy. The lady at the counter is not going to stop you as you walk by and ask if you would like to try a new lipstick. If you go to the counter and ask for help most of the time they will be very happy to make a sale.
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    No problem with being "ugly" I just simply treat the salesladies with the same respect that I would ask of them. If I'm not beautiful, but I don't believe in being mean and unpleasant to someone who is at their job.

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    "Noname" does the phrase "Take a chill pill" mean anything to you? and oh by the way there is no such thing as an ugly woman! some are just less beautiful than others but ALL are lovely. Then theres my wife...drop dead goorgeous!

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    Quote Originally Posted by great gg View Post
    don't do the web stats as general rule, because for every one that says that women are more aggressive there are countless others, including the national institute of health that debunk that. so, no arguement about treating others with respect. our culture treats men like men and women like women. how they present. we are not yet at the point where everyone is treated with respect.
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query
    This is true. But men being men don't report the violence against them by women as much because of the chance of being ridiculed. Billie Jean

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    Quote Originally Posted by noname View Post
    Oh I dunno.... perhaps I would like to be treated with the same dignity and repect gg's get. I guess I find it upsetting that my gender does allow me such. I don't think there is a person on the planet that likes to be treated differently because of genetics.
    Well, I think you are in the minority then, because of all the members here, you're the only one constantly complaining you are treated differently. What would you like sales ladies to do??? jump out at you and ask if you would like some makeup??

    Seems to me, you actually have no respect for GG's, so why would they have any respect for you??? You've shown none here, that's for sure. You've not posted any support to the GG's that come here and ask for it..... but you want respect on a platter.... go figure...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tamara GG View Post
    Well, I think you are in the minority then, because of all the members here, you're the only one constantly complaining you are treated differently. What would you like sales ladies to do??? jump out at you and ask if you would like some makeup??
    I would like to be treated like any other gg walking through the store. Or perhaps not get stared at by GG's when minding my own business.

    Seems to me, you actually have no respect for GG's, so why would they have any respect for you??? You've shown none here, that's for sure. You've not posted any support to the GG's that come here and ask for it..... but you want respect on a platter.... go figure...
    Perhaps if they showed respect for me, they would get respect in return. I have posted some GG support, not often though. I guess my thinking is off that all people are equal and should be treated equal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noname View Post
    I would like to be treated like any other gg walking through the store. Or perhaps not get stared at by GG's when minding my own business.


    But you're *not* a GG! Sheesh, unless you're dressed enfemme I see no earthly reason why SA's would offer you perfume samples, etc.


    Perhaps if they showed respect for me, they would get respect in return. I have posted some GG support, not often though. I guess my thinking is off that all people are equal and should be treated equal.
    Noname, from my perspective you've got some really *serious* issues with genetic females. Perhaps if you did some soul searching to find the root of those issues life would be much happier and simple for you.

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    try B'Q no-name , they hire cement mixers by the hour !! i seriously think you are jealous of GG'S . if u took ur time and read thru posts, ud see how many c/d in here ask nicely for our advice/help. they very rarely critize and make sarcastic comments about ourselves. remeber beauty is skin deep, its the person inside that matters. if ur not happy within, ur pretty well not happy on the outside
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    Well noname,

    I actually waded through all those studies you referred to. This is a case of science triumphing over common sense. It seems to indicate that women are more violent than men, and yet we all know this to be untrue. When was the last time a woman kidnaped a school full of children, let the girls go and then tied up and murdered all the boys? When was the last murder and rape of a young man by a woman in your city? Just the oposite happened here recently. Women are afraid to walk alone at night. Why? If your assumption was true, why is it that the VAST majority of murders and rapes occur against women. Are women killing other women? No, men kill women. And beat women severely, and threaten women with violence. Those studies relate violent behavior but do not define what the violence consisted of. Reading between the lines it is obvious that slapping, throwing things, punching, are all defined as violence. These acts, when perpetrated against men leave little impact. When, on the other hand, they are perpetrated against women, a mans vastly superior strength and fighting ability do significant damage to women. Often common sense is lost when statistics are used to prove a point held by a single point of view. The fact remains in all of this that men are stronger, bigger, taller, more skilled at damaging an opponent, and often reluctant to hit a woman. Women know this, and so do you. There is no question that women come out on the short end of the stick when it comes to physical violence between the sexes. Are you afraid of getting attacked by a women when you venture out alone at night? No, you are not. And for good reason. Women just don't do this. But men do. If you are afraid to walk alone, you are afraid of other men, not of a woman.

    Sorry, but your argument just doesn't hold water.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stephenie S View Post
    Well noname,

    I actually waded through all those studies you referred to. This is a case of science triumphing over common sense. It seems to indicate that women are more violent than men, and yet we all know this to be untrue. When was the last time a woman kidnaped a school full of children, let the girls go and then tied up and murdered all the boys? When was the last murder and rape of a young man by a woman in your city? Just the oposite happened here recently. Women are afraid to walk alone at night. Why? If your assumption was true, why is it that the VAST majority of murders and rapes occur against women. Are women killing other women? No, men kill women. And beat women severely, and threaten women with violence. Those studies relate violent behavior but do not define what the violence consisted of. Reading between the lines it is obvious that slapping, throwing things, punching, are all defined as violence. These acts, when perpetrated against men leave little impact. When, on the other hand, they are perpetrated against women, a mans vastly superior strength and fighting ability do significant damage to women. Often common sense is lost when statistics are used to prove a point held by a single point of view. The fact remains in all of this that men are stronger, bigger, taller, more skilled at damaging an opponet, and often reluctant to hit a woman. Women know this, and so do you. There is no question that women come out on the short end of the stick when it comes to physical violence between the sexes. Are you afraid of getting attacked by a women when you venture out alone at night? No, you are not. And for good reason. Women just don't do this. But men do. If you are afraid to walk alone, you are afraid of other men, not of a woman.

    Sorry, but your argument just doesn't hold water.

    Stephenie
    Thank you so much, Stephenie, for demonstrating that we, regardless of gender bias and issues, can actually use common sense and understand the distincitons based on reality. It has been an intereisting thread to follow, if only to determine that a closed system stays closed in order to protect itself. what would it mean if noname had to give up believing that gg's have it so darn good and that he should be treated the same as we are? want to be one of the targets? In one of my sermons, I talked about domestic violence from a personal experience I had with one of my parishioners. And, I asked, how can any of you men out there be afraid of a 5'\4 inchwoman? what makes me so scary? when I leave this building as the last one out at night, I immeidately revert to being just a female target for some crazy a** guy with a grudge against some female who done him wrong and I would be a great target to pay for it. that is a reality. tell me nomane or any other male is afrait to walk out any door at night because of what's between his/her legs? Outside of cds, gays or lesbians who are also "hated" by the big macho real men? and also, of course, by many women. but I dont' remember Matthew Shepherd being killed by a couple of women. As I recall, it was two guys who took him from the club and left him to die on a fence. so boo hoo for sales clerks who don't offer men lipsticks.

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