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    What is the difference between a cross dresser and a transvestite

    Can anybody help me here. From what I can gather, the former doesnt sound as "bad" as the latter when explaining / coming out, etc i.e. less extreme, less of a sexual connotation / note about it. I call myself by both but wondered - does it matter anyway? Are cross dressers more straight and transvestites on the way to full re-assignment.

    Perhaps a philosophical question, what do you girls call yourselves??

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    I have referred to myself as both... I think cross dresser is more politically correct.

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    I am a crossdresser - a man who believes that I can wear clothing tradionally considered to be women's.

    I am not a transvestite. I am a male, however I am dressed. There is no gender confusion in my brain.

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    One has twelve letters and one has 11 letters in it.

    In the good ole USofA Transvestite is considered pejorative slang for someone who crossdresses. It does have a sexual connotation with it because of the use of transvestite in many porn venues. However, the term in not nearly as politically incorrect on the other side of the pond.
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    I don't call myself either. The T word sounds so clinic...and I don't have a disease. The C word sounds like I am jumping teams or on the fence. I am transgender.

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    You can ask this of 100 people and you will get a lot of different answers but here's my take on it.

    A crossdresser is a Heterosexual man who dresses as a women because he either Identifies with women or gender identified as a women and is not gay.

    A transvestite Is a straight man who like to wear women's clothes as a sexual come on and a way to get into the mood and play, but does not want to dress or be a women.

    A Transsexual is of course a man or women whom want a sex change and feels that they were born into the wrong sex.

    A Drag Queen is a gay man or a straight man dressing up as a women to entertain . Or a guy man living as a women . Drag King is a women dressing as a man gay or straight.

    So thats my take on it. I might be right or wrong in other peoples mind but it's my opinion but that is never Wong , it's just mine lol. Hope that helped!!!

    Oh ya Transgender is all of the above. It just says I'm This and you can figger it out lol.
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    Only the spelling!
    Rachel,

    As a crossdresser my personality has several facets. Therefore, I suppose I can be forgiven for being facetious.

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    I label myself as a Tgirl.

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    This is just my opinion:

    Crossdresser- wears one of more items of clothing of the opposite sex. Doesn't usually try to "pass" or anything like that.

    Transvestite- Dresses up fully and wants to "pass" as a woman, yet has no desire to go through surgery or hormones, etc.

    I think both cd's and tv's can both use items as a means of a sexual turn on, but is not necessarily the case. Personally, I very much hate it when it's automatically assumed that just because I dress, I have a sexual arousal association with it.
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    About 12 Months ?

    Quote Originally Posted by cindym5_04 View Post
    This is just my opinion:

    Crossdresser- wears one of more items of clothing of the opposite sex. Doesn't usually try to "pass" or anything like that.

    LOL, You might want to rethink your definition of Crossdresser, because from the majority of the photos on here, that is simply not the case.

    Transvestite- Dresses up fully and wants to "pass" as a woman, yet has no desire to go through surgery or hormones, etc.

    Same with this one.

    I think both cd's and tv's can both use items as a means of a sexual turn on, but is not necessarily the case. Personally, I very much hate it when it's automatically assumed that just because I dress, I have a sexual arousal association with it.

    I agree 100% with you here .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelly DeWinter View Post
    About 12 Months ?
    Let's see the further progression (mtf):

    And then another 12 months, a transgender woman after HRT takes effect.

    And yet another 12 months, a transsexual woman after SRS.

    Just kidding.

    Let's see - trans means cross

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    vestite is related to vestments, or clothing, so vestite would mean dresser.

    So properly speaking, transvestite is a Latin form of crossdresser.

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    Kelly! LOL!

    Stephi, I think there's a lot of people here who shy away from labels. You asked an honest question, and I'm sure everyone has their own opinion. My thoughts - don't worry about it and just be whoever you want to be. I think there are so many people in a vaaaaaaast spectrum here and our little corner of the pretty universe just happens to be called cders.com out of convenience. It should be called beautifulpeople.com.

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    I figure the difference is about $85.00 dollars an hour at a therapist!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KarenCDFL View Post
    I figure the difference is about $85.00 dollars an hour at a therapist!
    lol
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    Hay all
    Me being naive,the first time I heard of
    Crossdressers was on the internet
    Did they already exist or were we all
    Just plain transvestites up till then?
    Bye bye

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    Hogwash to all who say there's a difference. They are the same: crossdresser is the English version of the Latin-based transvestite. Trans=cross, vest=clothing (dress, as in dressed, not as in a red dress)

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    Quote Originally Posted by NicoleScott View Post
    Hogwash to all who say there's a difference. They are the same: crossdresser is the English version of the Latin-based transvestite. Trans=cross, vest=clothing (dress, as in dressed, not as in a red dress)
    All good answers, but I most agree with Nicole. I think it's like the guy named Robert: he might go by Robert, Rob, Bob, or Dick; it all depends on what he wants to be called. I'd rather be called (if I must be called anything...) a crossdresser than a transvestite. It's just a matter of personal preferance because, like Nicole, I think they both mean the same thing.
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    Its a very good question and one which I have seen thrashed around the transgender world on the internet and in publishing for years. In my opinion there is no exact definition which everyone seems to agree to. That's not just here on this thread but all over the world. There has always been and still seems to be a great deal of blurred lines in terms of defining a line and saying one more step and now you in this box and no longer in that box etc.

    I think the main points have been well made for e.g. Transvestite, TV or tranny is less used and appreciated in the US and even here in the UK seems to be less favoured over 'crossdresser'. I prefer transgender as it does cover just about everything and seems to be seen as a more serious term when trying to educate or communicate with others about our lifestyle. Add to this I think there is an element of us who just love being rebels and the second you say your box 'A'. they will argue for their right to be box 'B' or 'C' or all the above!

    I think it is helpful to know in your own mind, who and what you are and then explain that clearly and then it doesn't matter so much which title you adopt to describe yourself. I think this subject will go on for some years yet. It is still an on-going conversation.

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    "Transvestite" is generally thought to be a more pejorative term than "crossdresser." As in "Transvestic fetishist" a person deriving sexual pleasure from dressing in clothing/attire generally regarded in their culture as feminine. Not all crossdressers don womens clothing for sexual pleasure.

    As for me, I've been called both and a whole lot worse. People can call me what they want. However, as the symbol in my avatar suggests - I regard myself transgendered.

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    In the USA (and countries that follow their standards), "Transvestite" is a medical diagnosis of mental illness with certain characteristic, found in exactly the same chapter as the description of mental illnesses such as beastiality and even paedophillia.

    "Cross-dresser" was a term invented later to say "Hold on, although we might be unusual, we are not suffering from a mental illness, and we are definitely not in the same category as beastiality and paedophillia!

    The UK did not evolve under the same criteria, so "transvestite" there was more a descriptive term for actions rather than a judgement about the mental health of the actor.

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    Personally for me I like to be a cross dresser and I am happy with that

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    I agree that the two words mean the same thing. That is purely opinion, though. when I talk about it with my wife I use the term "dressed" or "dressed up" to describe the act getting or being en femme. when I describe myself I use the term Transgendered. It does sound a bit more serious than the other two words that some in society see as a choice that people make to do something different rather than a state of being that manifests itself through women's clothes or appearance. I think given the choice I would rather not have something looming over me that could wreak havoc on every facet of my life. ergo, Christy is not a choice but an alternate state of my being...or so I tell myself.

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    Hmm, CD yep great storage device, TV yep love it better now I got 3D TV. Both are ok at present but maybe out of date soon. I prefer to label myself as " a bloke who likes to wear different types of material that looks nice to me, and may offend others, but who cares". I don't think I am a guy who wears a dress because there are lots of other things I may wear: shorts,skirts,tops,leggings,shoes,boots,jewelry, overspray from the paint gun. I don't get any sexual arousement because I sure as hell do not turn me on when dressed, yuk, but love the way a well cut and styled dress or skirt falls and moves when I move. I guess if I was to label myself I have to go with CD but would like a different label to TV or CD. I feel that the labels CD or TV have been tainted with derogatory remarks from uninformed people. Its time for a change.

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    Leave the labels for the cans and jars. Your own sense of self can and never will be defined by a single word.

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