Are the majority of CDs and TGs straight?

[Gena Gurl]

Here's my two cent's worth, as a life long crossdresser. I see by many threads that say that the majority of CDs are straight, but my experiance has been that I do not believe that. Why? (and I do not want to upset any one it is just a personal observation) I, like alot of you go to sites like Flickr and You Tube and a meriad of porn cites that most have either cds with men or cds with cds. By far it is not straight men. Let me also say that all though I am straight I find my self attracted to a beautifull CD not becase she looks like a woman, but knowing that she is a beautiful CD. I have never been with an other CD or wanted to be with a man, but I think we need to be honest. I know I'm going to get a lot of flack from this, but this is my observation from years of crossdressing and trying to figure things out. All this said I do not harbor any ill will to those who want to be with men or CDs, just be honest whether gay or bi. Again just an oppinion, Thanks Gena

[Nikki A.]

No bash here but I'll disagree. Long time CD. And since I don't desire to be a woman I have no interest in men. As far as our TS members, since they feel that they are women, wouldn't men be the "straight" option?
I'm sure there are members who are gay or bi but that is true of society whether they dress or not.

[Diana Bain]

When dressed as a woman, I have no desire to be with a man in anyway. I do though enjoy the company of a woman.

[Gena Gurl]

I am not saying that there are not any straight cd's, as I also considermy self to be straight. An other example of this I attended a big get together for CDs, yes you know the big one. I was hit on by many CDs and at the end of the big bash I saw many pair up and go to their rooms and it wasn't to play tiddledy winks. "When the cat's away the mice will play". I am talking about crossdressers and not transexuals. Go to flickr photo sharing and you will see thousands of post that will prove my point to an extent. I too get mezmorized by CDs that would pass any day as beautiful women, but I have to realize tha it's still a man in a dress. I just want the majority to admit to it. I know things might be different here, but i do read the post's of gay or bi and by far the straifgts are always out numbered and that's the ones that will admit it. Again I do not mean to piss any one off, but after 63 years as CD it's my conclussion and you do not have to agree with me. Just be honest. Thanks Gena

[kimdl93]

Gena, the only reason you'll get flack is in basing your opinion on faulty data. The basis for your conclusion, is you tube, flikr and porn sites. These sources you mentioned are not even remotely representative of the general population of CDrs. They cater to a particular subset of the CD population that is into the sexualized aspect of dressing and more specifically to those with homosexual interests (not that there is anything wrong with that). Furthermore, they cater to non-CD individuals who may have sexualized fantasies about Transexuals.

But that's not a remotely reliable method for analyzing the sexual orientation of transgendered people. There have beeen many surveys of the larger population that have indicated that a solid majority of CDrs are heterosexual. They just don't happen to be the market for the porn sites.

[Lorileah]

Here's my two cent's worth, as a life long crossdresser. I see by many threads that say that the majority of CDs are straight, but my experiance has been that I do not believe that. Why? (and I do not want to upset any one it is just a personal observation) I, like alot of you go to sites like Flickr and You Tube and a meriad of porn cites that most have either cds with men or cds with cds. By far it is not straight men. Let me also say that all though I am straight I find my self attracted to a beautifull CD not becase she looks like a woman, but knowing that she is a beautiful CD. I have never been with an other CD or wanted to be with a man, but I think we need to be honest. I know I'm going to get a lot of flack from this, but this is my observation from years of crossdressing and trying to figure things out. All this said I do not harbor any ill will to those who want to be with men or CDs, just be honest whether gay or bi. Again just an oppinion, Thanks Gena

What you see is just the tip of the iceberg. You see the same type of sites with middle aged women, teenagers, Old folks. Do you believe that all those groups are majority NOT straight? Sort of a huge brush to paint the world with. Consider this, the porn sites are for money, so just because there are TG's on those sites does not mean their sexual persuasion is what they portray. Also sex sells, since the majority of the people of the world are satisfied with their sex lives, they don't post on these types of sites.

You make a huge and false assumption based on weak and irrelevant "facts" that cannot be substantiated. You would make a great political manager.

[Marleena]

Scientific studies show most are straight.

However anybody searching crossdressers on the internet will be inundated with porn sites. That is why so many people assume any guy that puts on a dress is gay.

[STACY B]

Yea ,,,,,,,,, What they said ,,,,,Meh,,,Meh,,,,Meh,,, Now ,,,,

[PaulaAnn]

Interesting thread. I'm TG'd,live and think as a woman....I like men so in my mind I'm straight ,but some people would consider me gay.I actually don't care how I'm labeled....I am what I am.
Paula.

[Stephanie47]

If a person peruses porn sites, watching women being degraded by men using them a sex toys, does that make all women s**ts and *****s? No. As a life long man who likes to wear women's clothing on occasion, I have had absolutely no desire to hook up with a man. I have no desire to be a woman. But, if I wasn't a man, I would not object to being a woman.

Gay men want to be with gay men. And, there may be a subset of gay men or bi-sexual men who want to be with another man dressed as a woman. You'd have to ask them why. As a heterosexual man, if I were so inclined to be unfaithful to my wife of forty years, I'd be cheating with a bona fida woman, and, not a man in a dress. And, I'd leave my dress and heels at home.

[Gena Gurl]

Thanks for your coments and I do respect your oppinions, I realy do, but my take is from personal experiance of so called straight cds and some of the post that I see here when some one ask gay or bi and there is always a larger group tha are that. I had also attended a crossdressing group in Dallas for two or three meetings and I can tell you that out of 25 or so members the majority where gay and bi. Please, I agree that there are many that are straight as am I, but how do you explain when at the CDs at the events are hooking up. When I was there I was approached by a "straight CD from Austin, Tx and wanted to as he said fool around. I must repeat and I know that I am painting with a brad brush, and I guess we well have to agree to disagree. These views are from a long life as a crossdresser only. Thanks Gera

[Tracii G]

Now I'm as confused as ever. I thought I knew what I was damn!

[Mistybtm]

Fore me I am bi and was before I realy got heavy into cding , that said I do find my self having A stronger desier to be with A man when I am dressed.

[Marleena]

Thanks for your coments and I do respect your oppinions, I realy do, but my take is from personal experiance of so called straight cds and some of the post that I see here when some one ask gay or bi and there is always a larger group tha are that. I had also attended a crossdressing group in Dallas for two or three meetings and I can tell you that out of 25 or so members the majority where gay and bi. Please, I agree that there are many that are straight as am I, but how do you explain when at the CDs at the events are hooking up. When I was there I was approached by a "straight CD from Austin, Tx and wanted to as he said fool around. I must repeat and I know that I am painting with a brad brush, and I guess we well have to agree to disagree. These views are from a long life as a crossdresser only. Thanks Gera

I'm just guessing here but maybe most of the ones that attend use it as an opportunity to hook up or make new like minded friends. I'm thinking the straight ones might be in relationships already.

[Beverley Sims]

I used to look in the back of my television set for dead cowboys and indins when I was younger.
Now I find myself looking over the top of the screen of my laptop for gay and lesbian CD's.
Me, I am as straight as the next CD'er.

[Nigella]

Gena, try using the search facility on this site. This topic is very well covered.

IMHO you have got flawed data simply by the virtue of taking the internet as the only source of information. Sites like this one are in the minority when a true representation of the TG community is sought. Many people when searching crossdressers get hit by thousands of pornographic images. Add to that feminisation, sissy and all the other words used to describe the community and the number of hits that lead to a misleading representation is hugely magnified.

[Brittany CD]

It's hard to say, considering how it can't be known how many crossdressers there are, but crossdressers often say most are straight. It's a public perception that crossdressers are gay, which is why straight crossdressers always have to explain that they're not gay, just men in women's outfits.

[almisami]

I think my own crossdressing is brought on by my severe disdain for male culture and associated things. Hence, I don't feel any attraction towards men.

[Barbara Ella]

Going to disagree, and say your data set is taken from non random samples. The sites and activities you mention do not in any way attract a true cross section of crossdressers. Hetero dressers will not go to those sites you mention in anything resembling their proportion of the population, so they are relatively meaningless to this discussion. Big crossdressing gatherings only gather those who are very out, and not at all a cross section of crossdressers again.

Your point might be valid but it cannot be made using the observations you have made. Nigella is right on.

really, I am straight, and others are not, and each of us has their perception of the balance.

Barbara

[Gena Gurl]

You guys are right I am not going by data, but from life experiances, I do not think that I'm so special that every one hit on me and I am talking about other cds. When I was younger I made a very passable gurl and was very in the closet so I wanted to meet other like minded cds, and by far was propositioned many times by other "straight cds". I will repeat my self if you are gay or bi there's nothing wrong with that so I'm not bashing. Yes I did meet some wonderful "straight cds, but by far conversations a lot of times led to sexual inuendos, and if you all are honest I would bet that a lot of you have been approched too! This is my last post on this issue I was just trying to see if any one has thought if it as I do. And I will repeat my self I do respect everyones oppinion, but no amount of scientific data will sway me from my personal life ovservations. Thanks Gena.

[NicoleScott]

I just want the majority to admit to it. Just be honest.

There's your agenda. You believe that most crossdressers aren't straight, and if they say they are, they must be dishonest. As others have said, the REAL data says most are straight.
I love to look at pictures of other crossdressers. That doesn't meake me gay.

[ReineD]

There's a difference between fantasy and the reality of sexual orientation:

http://www.crossdressers.com/forums/...ale-attraction

And yes, there are an awful lot of admirers (tranny chasers) and CDers who get off on being attractive to them.

[kimdl93]

You guys are right I am not going by data, but from life experiances, .... but no amount of scientific data will sway me from my personal life ovservations. Thanks Gena.

Gena, Its certainly possible that your life experience gave you the impression that other CDs were gay. That is your unique experience. I've been in a number of GLBT friendly bars and been hit on by women, but never by a male. So, using your logic and based on my experience no gay males like CDrs, and all Lesbians are attracted to CDing males.

Again, one person's expereince is not a valid measure of everyone in a population. I have blue eye and blond hair - so all CDrs must have blue eyes and blond hair. I'm of Norwegian descent - so I guess all Norwegians are CrossDRessers. Those are absurd assertions, of course, but so is your assertion about the sexual orientation of CDrs.

If you can't be swayed by unbiased, statistically validated research then all your left with is personal impressions, which can obviously lead you astray. In your case, you seem insistent that any one individual proves your point, when vast amounts of evidence indicate the contrary.

[Gena Gurl]

Reinel, thanks for the tread you sent, I went to that thread titled "Crossdressing and the Male Attraction" and by far almost 85% said that as dressed in women's clothing the have or would consider being wit a CD or a "man's Touch". In my book that makes you gay or BI. This is from members on this site. So despute that! All I'm saying is that even if you are a crossdresser and want to be with an other crossdresser is a man and a man no ifs or butts. This said there is nothing wrong with that, just do not go around saying that you are straig, that' all!

[LilSissyStevie]

Gay and straight are socially constructed categories that only describe some people. I think the late, great, Gore Vidal had it right when he said, "There is no such thing as a homosexual or a heterosexual person. There are only homo- or heterosexual acts. Most people are a mixture of impulses if not practices." A wise person on this forum, in another context, once asked what it would be like if we only had the categories of apples, oranges and banana's to describe all the different fruits (LOL!). Yet that is exactly what we try to do with sexuality. We try to sort all the fruits into straight/bi/gay and argue endlessly about which one of these categories admirers,"male lesbians" and those who are "bi when dressed" belong to when it is obvious that they belong to "none of the above." Gore Vidal also said, “Trust a nitwit society like this one to think that there are only two categories - fag and straight.”