Have you been with a guy?

[Mayo]

Fantasy is an important part of our sexual identity and our lives as sexual beings. Sometimes fantasies fulfilled are amazing and lead (as they have in your case) to personal growth and improved relationships. Sometimes the reality fails to live up to the fantasy (as has been the case for some members who've posted here) but people are richer for the experience. And some fantasies are better left that way. Your mileage may vary. :D

EDIT:

Although it would be nice to be able to factor in the fantasy element, which I think is an important one here and is a category in itself separate from any attraction to men and/or women. There are people who source their greatest sexual gratification on their own in this community.
In the absence of other information, an unfulfilled fantasy generally got the poster a rating of 1.

[Katey888]

Mayo - nice analysis! :yahoo:

This thread hasn't turned out very different from one that ran yonks ago that I attempted to analyse, albeit not to the Kinsey scale. Like you, I omitted responses that were unclear or not sufficiently specific... The simplified results looked like this:

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Of course, we have the same issues with response bias and for a slightly different question (speaking as someone who's had survey research as part of their profession, what questions you ask and how you phrase them has a huge bearing on the responses too...) and a self-selecting respondent base, so the net result would be 'indicative only': you can only state gross observations from these results - nothing definitive.

As to fantasy - there's a whole section in Psychology Today (https://www.psychologytoday.com/basics/fantasies) devoted to what fantasies are about (creativity, largely - NOT necessarily a desire to enact) with this relevant quote from one of the articles (on sexual fantasies):


In fantasy, everything is permitted and nothing is wrong. Not everyone accepts this, but as sexual openness increases, so does willingness to daydream about sexual scenarios one would never really want to experience.
Michael Castleman

I think that is really relevant to the fantasies that many folk here confirm - having accepted a part of them that likes to express feminine, it seems only natural that some folk (those with sufficient imagination and inclination) would wonder what it was actually like to experience sex as a female... No big stretch and nobody should be condemned to eternal hellfire for fantasizing... :)

Katey x

[Bruce64]

I am not attracted to Men in any form, way, matter, never had never will.

[ReineD]

Absolutely, fantasy is a good and healthy thing when it enhances the sexual relationship between a willing couple, or when it enables a single person to have a rewarding sex life. The same can be said about non-vanilla sexual practices that used to be considered deviant.

I’m glad that sexual therapy now encourages the expression of all manner of people’s fantasies and proclivities as opposed to classifying them as paraphilic, as they did in prior versions of the DSM. It is no longer "wrong" to want threesomes, open marriages are perfectly acceptable as long as both partners agree, same-sex attraction is no longer seen as a sickness, all sorts of people are having fun with BDSM, and porn can certainly spice up a sexual relationship between willing couples for example.

But, when alone-time fantasies become the most gratifying outlet in situations where there are committed partners and the other partner is unaware, or when it takes the place of seeking real-life partners if someone is single, this attraction in my view cannot be classified as predominately hetero, bi, or homosexual. It is a preference for sexual activity that does not involve any active engagement with anyone else (except when they are used as props), not dissimilar to a person who has come to rely on or prefer porn.

There is an important element of auto-gratification among members in this community for the simple fact that it is difficult to find willing GG and GM partners who will fully engage in the cross-gender sexual fantasy, save for Admirers.

I was simply saying that it would be nice to include a separate category for people who actually prefer alone time over being with others (predominately autosexual), even when they do have sex with others on occasion for a variety of social reasons. However, it is difficult to do so because people who fall in this category tend to be unwilling to think of themselves as predominately autosexual. And let me say again that this form of sexual preference is just as valid as any other.

[flatlander_48]

It seems like it would be difficult to include the fantasy aspect in all this. Everyone has fantasies, but I don't think there isn't a clean way to categorize them; or at least I don't know of a method...

DeeAnn

[ReineD]

Yup. People would need to look deeply into themselves and willingly volunteer the information.

[TaraGrace]

ReineD, I think I get what you are saying.. but i'm afraid you'de have to classify that even furth to get the real picture.
Thinking of a relative large number of GG women I know personally that actually are "predominately autosexual" and not even due to prefference but mainly because they've placed other priorities above sex in their partner selection. I can only assume certain men did likewise (although perhaps less common), which would tick the box, but not really fit what you meant, right?

ps, I've skipped answering this post before, so here's mine;

1. Has anyone done it before? in girl mode: no / in boy mode: yes
2. Did you feel guilty later about it? in girl mode: - / in boy mode: once, lets write that off as poor judgement from my side on one date
3. Did you get addicted to being with a guy? in girl mode: - / in boy mode: no, I switch back and forth sometimes with months between
4. Did you decide to go fulltime after being with a guy? no
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5. Was it more pleasurable than straight sex? How did you feel? No, generally speaking most men are awfull allround lovers, just to name one thing: terrible kissers. Otherwise put; I would say women make better partners for a full evening and night out, where as men are more of a fastfood snack.. If I have the munchies, a quick burger can put a smile on my face too :)

[ReineD]

Thinking of a relative large number of GG women I know personally that actually are "predominately autosexual" and not even due to prefference but mainly because they've placed other priorities above sex in their partner selection. I can only assume certain men did likewise (although perhaps less common), which would tick the box, but not really fit what you meant, right?)

Well, if these GGs placed other priorities above sex in their partner selection, they'd be asexual wouldn't they? This would be a fifth category: [hetero/bi/homo/auto/asexual]. But if they prefer to be autosexual as in your example despite having selected a partner, then they'd fit into the autosexual category too, as would the partner if he went along with it and also did not want sex with anyone outside the relationship. If these GGs selected partners for convenience, say for financial reasons but preferred sex with a third party, then they'd be either hetero, bi, or homosexual depending on their choice of sexual partners.

That said, there are all sorts of reasons to form commitments to others. I know two same-sex couples (one homosexual and one lesbian), who entered into civil unions with the working partner of the other couple in order to be placed on the working partner's health insurance, before same-sex civil unions were allowed that guaranteed same-sex partners such benefits. They were legally married to people they did not live with or have sex with. lol. But they were most definitely same-sex attracted people. :)

[Kimberley May]

I've been bi-curious for many years but never did until a couple of months back. I see the crossdressing bit as totally unconnected to it. A totally different issue altogether. Although the crossdressing I found made it surprisingly easy to pick up guys. The offers I received were unreal, bloody flattering really. Why can't I have this kinda luck with the ladies?

Anyway as I was saying, I tried it with a guy a couple of months back for the first time, and I regret it.

I immediately ran a hot bath after he went to wash it all away. I felt violated, although it was my fault but now I kinda understand how women must feel. His smell seemed to linger in the room for days. I didn't feel turned on like I do with a woman and just went through the motions just waiting for it to be over. I do feel shame and regret, but then if I never tried it then I would still be thinking about doing it for the rest of my life which would drive me bonkers.

So, being bi-curious and even experiencing it to find out I believe doesn't automatically mean you're gay, confused sure until after you find out if you like it or not. I didn't care for it. I'm not in denial, I now consider myself straight and not bi. At least I know now, at a heavy cost.

[Mink]

I feel very similar .... very bi-curious but after FINALLY having some experience... it's not for me... I appreciated being desired and like "the girl" or object of affectation or whatnot but I wasn't into the male body / mode of sexuality or whatever... it made me just wish I was with a girl or an actual girl or SOMETHING!

and yes... the issue of how dang hard it is to pursue the ladies vs. how EASY it was to get with a guy... I figured why not give the thing the ol' college try!

but then I wanted to die!

[leonal123]

Hi Sam,

One question. Did you ever felt like there is something else inside your mind which is projecting those ideas? I mean, that you as a person don't want to be with a guy but there is something inside you which tells you that do it, try it. And finally it becomes hard to resist?
Do you think its not the physical part of the act but the mental part of the whole act which satisfies you?


1. Has anyone done it before?

Yes, the first few times it was scary, exciting and wonderful all at the same time. Dressing as a girl made it somehow seem alright to do things with guys...that was my pre-teen logic anyway.... because it was OK for a girl to do stuff with a guy. The only time I ever found guys attractive was when i was dressed.

2. Did you feel guilty later about it?

Yes as a teen anyway. Right after I would orgasm I would have this rush of guilt and want it to end immediately. Depending on what we were doing, that could be difficult. Like when he is banging your brains out and he is doing a great job of making it last. I would be praying and counting the seconds until he finished. Sometimes I would be holding back tears, waiting for him to finish.

Then....A few days would go by and I would become horny again and it all started over. I finally just got over it after one incredible night with a really incredible guy....it just didn't make sense to feel guilty about having so much pleasure. I just realized it was OK/

After that I really began to enjoy the freedom women have in sex. Its actually very relaxing with guys. They are actually really easy to please.


3. Did you get addicted to being with a guy?

I prefer women, except when I am dressed. That being said, it is a lot of fun being with a great guy.....its totally fun. Its relaxing. Its incredible to go all the way with a guy you really connect with.

4. Did you decide to go fulltime after being with a guy?

No I didn't. If I was a teenager now, it might be a different story. My guy friend and I get together about 4 weekends a year. Even though I am not passable, but I dont bring any male clothing on our weekend getaways. Basically I wear women's polo shirts, a women's leather jacket and clearly women's jeans. I sort of push it a bit further each time but no one has ever called me out. In the bedroom its anything goes.....bring on the corset and garters.

5. Was it more pleasurable than straight sex? How did you feel?

Sex with guys is just different. Its just as wonderful. it scratches a different itch. Its sex from the other side. You are the receiver. Its fun.

The fun part of guys is that you know what they like and how to make them happy. You can keep him right on the edge for a few hours. It is something that most women do not understand.

[Chancey289]

No, I haven't been with a guy, but I am a little curious, however, I'd honestly really like to play around with another convincing crossdresser. I'm attracted to feminine beauty more than anything which is why I don't think I could do it with a just a straight up dude. Men just don't really attract me.

[flatlander_48]

Did you ever felt like there is something else inside your mind which is projecting those ideas? I mean, that you as a person don't want to be with a guy but there is something inside you which tells you that do it, try it.

That sounds like schizophrenia. Fortunately most of us do not have that...

DeeAnn

[Mink]

that's what our other personalities would WANT us to think!

oh god?

[Kimberley May]

Did you ever felt like there is something else inside your mind which is projecting those ideas? I mean, that you as a person don't want to be with a guy but there is something inside you which tells you that do it, try it.

That sounds like schizophrenia. Fortunately most of us do not have that...

DeeAnn
Or Bipolar-II Disorder, which is different to the more extreme Bipolar-I. A carefree careless promiscuous high sex drive even if it goes against your better judgment is a common symptom. I guess as a straight male it's why I still feel guilty about it and yet not entirely 100% sure that I wouldn't try it again, even though I don't find blokes attractive and could never fall in love with a guy.

[Emily W]

Thinking about my sexuality now, when I was in my teens and early 20s I was confused. I was attracted to both male and female, however all my partners were female. This was the norm and what was expected – 1 male with 1 female was acceptable. It wasn’t until my mid 20s that there was some male contact. I won’t go into details, but I liked the contact at times and not at other times.

Now I know that this was a period in which I was sorting out my role in a male-male relationship. Right up to my mid-forties I had male and female partners and considered myself Bi. Purges were definitely related to relationships and guilt. I still consider myself to be Bi but I have not had a female partner for more than five years. I know I am the exception rather than the norm for Cross-dressers where research clearly demonstrates 70% to 80%+ of Cross-dressers are Straight.

To answer some questions:

1. Has anyone done it before? In girl mode: Yes / In boy mode: Yes

2. Did you feel guilty later about it? In girl mode: Not at all now / In boy mode: No, never.

3. Did you get addicted to being with a guy? In girl mode: I have found guys that I have been very attractive towards. / In boy mode: No, never.

4. Did you decide to go fulltime after being with a guy? I often think about this – guy or no guy – if I knew what I know now back when I was in my early to mid-twenties I probably would have, but now No.

5. Was it more pleasurable than straight sex? Yes. How did you feel? With the right guy I find I am fulfilled as a woman, an amazing experience. When I do meet the right guy they can be very loving partners. You have to be fussy though as the majority, generally speaking, are selfish lovers. Would I go back to having a female partner at some future point in time? Probably not – but never say never

[Lilly 40C]

Here are my answers:

1. Has anyone done it before? Yes, several times and I enjoyed every minute of it..
2. Did you feel guilty later about it? No, it felt natural.
3. Did you get addicted to being with a guy? No, but I now enjoy sex equally with both men and women.
4. Did you decide to go fulltime after being with a guy? No.
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5. Was it more pleasurable than straight sex? Both yes and no but, very different especially oral sex. How did you feel? Like I crossed a horizon and entered a new aspect of my sex life.

[leonal123]

Not schizophrania.. But did you ever happen to touch or identify the area of the brain which projects those ideas?

That sounds like schizophrenia. Fortunately most of us do not have that...

DeeAnn

[threeheavenshigh]

No, I haven't been with a guy, but I am a little curious, however, I'd honestly really like to play around with another convincing crossdresser. I'm attracted to feminine beauty more than anything which is why I don't think I could do it with a just a straight up dude. Men just don't really attract me.

This is exactly how I feel. I would love to panty play with a CD'er, maybe even do some oral.

I haven't had penetration with anyone for a few years, and pretty sure I couldn't even do it if I wanted. Too addicted to clothing stimulation.

[flatlander_48]

Not schizophrania.. But did you ever happen to touch or identify the area of the brain which projects those ideas?

Basically it was a reaction to what sounded like references to 2 unrelated parts of the same consciousness. That seemed odd. We have one brain. There is a conscious part, but underneath there is a subconscious part. However, hearing voices takes it to a very different place.

DeeAnn

[shawnsheila]

I am not attracted to men/T-gals, etc... Only attracted to GGs though I may think a TG is pretty, it is not my thing.

Thank being said, I had some dudes in college hit on me and even try to get it on with me... not my thing and I had to shut it down for them (interestingly enough, the one dude who was outwardly homophobic, tough guy, very manly man... he was the one that tried to "seduce" me... He is a cop now... I wonder how many perps he pats down now... ahh, the college days)

That being said here are my answers:

1. Has anyone done it before? No, it is not my thing

That being said, do what you think you would like, if you find that you don't like it with a man while dressed, don't do it anymore... you wont know unless you try. Maybe give the guy a heads up (no pun intended) as to how you feel about it so you can have space to bail if you don't like it or don't want to go through with it.

[ReineD]

... that you as a person don't want to be with a guy but there is something inside you which tells you that do it, try it. And finally it becomes hard to resist?
Do you think its not the physical part of the act but the mental part of the whole act which satisfies you?

Yes, I think that's possible. You're describing a powerful fantasy of being a sexy, desirable woman. If you are hetero you might more easily picture yourself as a woman having sex with a man (this is what you know ... women and men having sex together), and so you might experience internal conflict if you are not attracted to men. Lots of members here have had such fantasies (the men in their fantasies usually have no faces) and they've followed through only to discover that it was best left as a fantasy. The reality of the experience turned them off. Of course there are homosexual and bisexual crossdressers too, who do not experience conflict the way a hetero CDer does.

[TracyUK]

I am not sexually attracted to men at all, but I do appreciate beauty and if I see a CDer who looks good I have no problem with those thoughts

[Sarah V]

I have been following this Discussion thread since it's inception, and I finally decided that it was time to say my peace with it. I liked the way one of the girls here was presenting her answers so I am going to do them in the same format. I am also going to add an additional Question.

1. Has anyone done it before? Yes, I too have finally had 'the experience" after years of thinking, mussing, and self-examination/wondering about it.

2. Did you feel guilty later about it? No not at all. And so far, I have found it to be a very pleasant, enjoyable, and empowering experience for myself. It's certainly brought out my femininity further and I am happy about that.

3. Did you get addicted to being with a guy? No, I would not say I am addicted at all. However, truth be told, I have had several repeat "coupling" encounters since the first time with this particular gentlemen. He is the only one I have ever been with. Like I said, so far, it has been a great experience for me, and i will continue to "get laid" again.

4. Did you decide to go fulltime after being with a guy? No, absolutely not. Like other's, I too am only comfortable bringing out the naughty woman in me on special occasions.

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5. Has it been more pleasurable than straight sex? How did you feel? So far, I think it has been about equal for me, but I am enjoying it very much, and can certainly see now why our GG/CIS sister's do also. I feel very much like any woman should who is having an physically intimate relationship with a man. I'll say it, he treats me well in bed, I certainly am enjoying myself there, and he continues to let me know I am pleasing him as well. I firmly believe that it DOES all have to do with how the gentlemen treats you. If he treats you well, gentlemanly, and like a woman should be treated, then good. I too hooked up with a older man (16years older) whom I first met casually at a LGBT club one weekend evening when I was out with a few other TG girlfriends. We chatted and exchanged eMail addresses. About a week later he contacted me by eMail, and things came about from there.

O.k., next question:

6: Now that you have done "it" once, are you going to plan on doing it at least again/or continue to do "it" now that you have tired it? Yes I am. Most defiantly.

[windycissy]

1. Has anyone done it before? Yes, although never with a girl present as you desire. That would weird me out, but I suppose there are girls who might get off on it.

2. Did you feel guilty later about it? The first time, I actually got sick afterwards. But I got over that pretty quickly.

3. Did you get addicted to being with a guy? I don't know if it's an addiction, or just something that I really, really enjoy.

4. Did you decide to go fulltime after being with a guy? No

5. Was it more pleasurable than straight sex? How did you feel? Depends on the guy! A good-looking guy who is experienced at making love to a tgirl can make me feel so good...certainly as good as straight sex makes me feel.

[Yinlingyen]

To answer this;

1- I have done it only twice on my whole life with a man while I was a girl. I have been a CD for 10 years.

2- I did feel guilty afterwards when I got back into boy mode. But while I was in girl mode, it was natural.

3- I am not addicted to it, but I guess I would not mind it in girl mode. It offers me a chance to loose myself in the fantasy. I want to be loved and desired as any woman would. I want to feel delicate, cherished and sexy at the same time. I want to feel powerless and let someone take control of me....perhaps use me.

4- Not going full time.

5- The feeling I got was really special. I cried the first time I did it. I remember very clearly the whole event as it was my first. It was a man older than me by about ten years. I had chatted with him online for a while and finally decided to meet. He was very gentlemanly. He in fact told me if I wanted to stop during the process then say the "safe word" - as he wanted to act out several fantasies of his.
He wanted told me to take a long bath poured me some wine and I got prepared for the night.
He watched me apply my make up and finally get dressed in a rather transparent nightgown I brought. He has some other items of lingerie for me to try on as well.
Then the "night" began.
I was the recipient of his "advances" and it was my first penetrative experience. I was really blown away. I screamed and cried at the same time. It was almost too much for me. At the end I was so tired all I could do was to lay there for a sleep. I did not "come" during the process (although it was so erotic and sensual) but the experience was so different it cannot be described or compared to the "regular activity".

[Lilly 40C]

In answer to Sarah's #6, I too will continue to do it with a man. If you're treated properly being with another man is very enjoyable for both you and him.:2c:

[kimberly c]

The answer is no, but when dressed in lingerie I feel very sexy and feminine and want what a women wants in bed.When dressed the craving for is very strong.

[Lilly 40C]

Kimberly go ahead and act on those cravings. Doing it will not make you a bad person or most likely not gay, just a BI-sexual. If you don't like it after your first time OK then don't do it again. But, my bet is you will like it and do it when ever the opportunity presents its self.

[AshleyJames]

1. Has anyone done it before? I have twice. First experience wasn't what I expected and pretty disappointing. Second one was the complete opposite, just amazing.
2. Did you feel guilty later about it? Nope
3. Did you get addicted to being with a guy? No
4. Did you decide to go fulltime after being with a guy? No
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5. Was it more pleasurable than straight sex? How did you feel? Each experience is different. Women have certain things to offer that differ from men. Its sort of like the difference between cars, they all have different experiences to offer and some aren't for everyone. My first experience with a man wasn't what I expected. He didn't have much to offer down below and wasn't dominant at all, so it was just awkward. The second guy was super hot, great body, very hung, dominant but not pushy. If I had the chance to go back in time, I'd definitely do my best to date the second guy. He was a real gentleman and sweetheart. If you're curious about it and really want to, you should go for it so long as no one gets hurt. Make sure you play safe and use your head though.

[TaraGrace]

Kimberly go ahead and act on those cravings. Doing it will not make you a bad person or most likely not gay, just a BI-sexual. If you don't like it after your first time OK then don't do it again. But, my bet is you will like it and do it when ever the opportunity presents its self.

I'll second that, although with reminder that "what a woman wants in bed" might refer to penetration, which in our cases requires a far higher amount of preperation/approach to be enjoyable, which ladies don't need. If you go for it, I'd be very clear on keeping things oral.

ps, I tried not to make this post to explicit, but seeing as it is a common first time mistake with gay/bi dating I thought it was appropriate to post as advice.

[leonal123]

(Really sorry guys if this is a bit out of the line, but This information is relevant to the questions I asked)
So I reached out to one of the guys on dating site and had a long conversation on the phone. I was really scared because I never talked to anyone like that over the phone. Anyhow, The guy was 50 yrs of age and had been with couple or CDs before and had relatively long relation. He mentioned that unlike women, they were unable to do it all night. He said that with a girl he could do all night but with a guy, he has to take breaks after every 12-15 mins...

After talking to him, I am again on square one. I wanted to try it but now I am wondering if it is more of a mental stimulation which drives us or if the physical aspect could also be a driving force for such a relation. Does we feel mentally fulfilled as a women or do we do it for the physical stimulation.
Again I do like dressing up, But I enjoy it more when someone appreciates the effort. So is my feeling to date someone is the next step to feel appreciated and content?

[LisaJ1]

1: Yes I have,I am bisexual
2: No
3: No
4: No
5: Equally pleasurable

[lingerieLiz]

While I went out with a friend as his date on several occasions. It was fun to be the girl and we played the roles back then, but never went further than touchy feely. It was sensational as he slid his hand up my nylons or under my sweater as I felt his hand slide on my slip toward my breasts. We never went further as he wanted a real guy and I didn't want to be with a guy and liked girls.

[Erin Lafleur]

1. Has anyone done it before?

Yes I have, on several occasions.

2. Did you feel guilty later about it?

At first I did and felt that way almost immediately. Buyer's remorse I suppose.

3. Did you get addicted to being with a guy?

I wouldn't say I became addicted to it in any way but that being said, it has become a regular part of my sex life. I am bisexual and enjoy being with both men and women. When I am with a woman, I very much adopt the male role and it's kind of business as usual. When I am with a man, I prefer to feel as a woman and much prefer to be dressed as a woman. It's not a necessity to be dressed but for me it just enhances the experience.

4. Did you decide to go fulltime after being with a guy?

No, being full time has never been of any interest to me.


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5. Was it more pleasurable than straight sex? How did you feel?

I wouldn't say that initially it was more pleasurable than straight sex but as time goes on, I find that it is becoming a larger part of my life. For me, I was lucky enough to find a male partner who was gentle and patient and if not for him, I'm quite sure that it would have amounted to nothing more than a dalliance. We have become great friends over the years (20 years+) and I know that I will never go back to just straight sex alone. Is it the forbidden fruit? Who knows, who cares? I do know that he and I enjoy each other immensely and he is very discrete so it works in my life.
Here is a copy of a Christmas e-mail that he sent me some time ago,... I certainly got a kick out of it!
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[Dakota1981]

1 - Yes I have, although only oral. Have yet to go all the way.

2 - I was nervous, but afterwards I wondered why I didn't try it sooner. So no, no guilt.

3 - Addicted? No I wouldn't say that. It was a new thing and a new adventure so it had the "shiny new toy" feel to it which made me want it more. I am bisexual in the purest sexual way. I do not find men attractive persay but I do have an attraction to the sex. I say in the purest sexual sense cause even the thought of kissing a man turns me off and is of no interest to me.

4 - Sexual encounters with men have not influenced my want to dress or go full time at all. While the idea is a fantasy of mine, I was not dressed at all during my experiences and it didn't make me want to dress or go full time anymore than what I originally felt.

5 - Much like I said above, it had the "shiny new toy" feel where you want to play with it as much as you can. Sex with a woman is much different than sex with a man to me. One has no effect over the other. I simply accept the fact that I have a want to be sexually active with men and women, but I only find women attractive and want a relationship with a woman, hence having a wife. The experience didn't make me gay, all it did was confirm what I thought from the beginning... I'd enjoy it.

[Lala]

I really want to do it but I am wondering if I am going to regret it later. My questions are
1. Has anyone done it before? Yes, twice in my life. Not "all the way", but now I wish I had
2. Did you feel guilty later about it? No. Fellow friend. We enjoyed it. But both super closeted
3. Did you get addicted to being with a guy? No
4. Did you decide to go fulltime after being with a guy? No. Doubt I will
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5. Was it more pleasurable than straight sex? How did you feel? I was very pleasurable. I felt at home

[Sin]

Yes I have.
1. I have been with few guy's but not nearly as many men as women. I have been with four men while dressed up.
2. I have felt bad after some sex I have done and even regret, but most of the time I really enjoy it and the memory as well. I'ts not a shame!
3. Some guy's are just so awesome that I crave them again and again, same is with women, to me its the experience with the person. I have also been with a man (and women) that I don't want to be with again.
4. I try'd a bit to go entirely gay when I was age 20 in New York, but I found myself often crave for some of the women around me and even bring them with me in mind to bed with the guy I was seeing, so I had to accept being strictly bi.
5. I have had more pleasurable sex with some women than some men and I have had more pleasurable sex with some men than some women.

I do not regret exploring sexuality with men and I love dressing up and get treated as a lady by a gentleman.

[mechamoose]

Liking a man is nothing to be ashamed of. Most men are horn-dogs.

My man is a rutty goat. All about pheromones and sex. He just wants me to service him. I want more than that, I'm trying to convince him that he isn't 'just' gay.

Not quite successful on that yet. He kind of equates anal sex with being something he denies he is.

I wish he was available the way I want him to be. He really has blinders on.

- MM

[Lori Kurtz]

... "what a woman wants in bed" might refer to penetration, which in our cases requires a far higher amount of preperation/approach to be enjoyable, which ladies don't need. If you go for it, I'd be very clear on keeping things oral.

In my fantasies as female, penetration would not be part of the thrill, although the manual and oral aspects would. The kissing, the hugging, the eager explorations of our hands, all would be wondrous. But the biggest thrill, I think, would be the whole-body aspects: allowing the man to enjoy my femininity--the feeling of the curves of my body rubbing against the more angular firmness and hardness of his, and my perception that his enjoyment of my femaleness has brought him to such a state of sexual readiness.

[Barbara147]

Only once as a woman and only once with a CD as a man. No I did not feel guilty. No. I am still basically hetero, but am also bi-curious. No. I am still in the closet. I can only say it was different, but enjoyable.

[michellechong]

1. Has anyone done it before? Yes. I was a streetwalker for a period of almost 3 years.
2. Did you feel guilty later about it? No, when I am a single. Yes, when I am married.
3. Did you get addicted to being with a guy? Yes, the guy who lured me into prostitution
4. Did you decide to go fulltime after being with a guy? Yes but gave up when I left him
5. Was it more pleasurable than straight sex? Yes for most of the time.

[Shorebird]

1. Has anyone done it before? Yes once a few years ago when I was unsure about myself and wanted to explore my sexuality.
2. Did you feel guilty later about it? Not about the act of being with another man sexually. Going behind my wife's back, yes.
3. Did you get addicted to being with a guy? No, but would like to try again if I found the right guy or another CD
4. Did you decide to go fulltime after being with a guy? No, I have no desire to go full time.
5. Was it more pleasurable than straight sex? As we only touched and performed oral on each other its a bit hard to fully answer the question. I must admit I was surprised how enjoyable what we did was and yes I would like to try again and possibly go further.

[Wandacdmn]

I want to thank you gurls for being open and honest (mostly) It is helpful for us waiting on the sidelines and wondering about taking the plunge. I have an online friend who is willing but not pushy about meeting. He's been patient for 6 months now. We will just have to see.

[Lilly 40C]

Wanda if he has be that patient what are you waiting for? Do it you will love it as long as he is gentile until you get used to it. It does not make you a bad person and as you see in this thread most of us don't turn in to being gay.

[josrphine]

I have had the expereince a couple of times. It was a blow an go an I don't want to see you again. I then had a chance to go to a Halloween party at one of the local casino with a free rm. I then advertise on craigs list for a women to go with me. To my surprise another C D ask if he could go with me. As I did not get any reply from an women, I told him yes, but I would be going the whole trip as a women. He agreed an we met at local super market to leave one of the cars. As I knew were we were going I drove. On the way down we had a great chat an shared our different time. We got to the hotel part of the casino an Ck'ed in. I saw that he was a bit nervous as he never had done this before. Well it went great an he was really worked up about what had just happen. The staff was great to us both . When we got to the room we were both so excited that we made love it was great. We then got dress an went to the party. Every one that we met was so very nice to us an we even got asked to join other straight people. As the night ended we headed back to the room, for we were beat. About 5 in the morning I had to go , as I came back to bed she was still asleep. I sliped into bed over to her side an started again. This is the first time I had sleeped with a man all night, I liked it an if I get a chance again I would do it. Jo

[Lilly 40C]

Wow never had an all nigher. Sure wish that would happen to me.:)

[pam_cd]

A long time ago I met a guy on an online dating site (not craigslist). He was willing to dress but was mostly looking for someone to dominate him. I brought some clothes for him and he really like dressing up! Then I happily obliged his fantasy - nothing too crazy. Mostly he wanted my pantyhosed legs wrapped around his head. Once we were done, he performed oral on me and that was that. We got together a few times but then he had to move to another city. I was hoping to have the roles reversed at some point. ;)

[mechamoose]

He was very gentlemanly. He in fact told me if I wanted to stop during the process then say the "safe word"

That is a good sign. Polite, even. Don't ever enter into any control situation you don't have a route to leave.


I was the recipient of his "advances" and it was my first penetrative experience. I was really blown away. I screamed and cried at the same time. It was almost too much for me. At the end I was so tired all I could do was to lay there for a sleep. I did not "come" during the process (although it was so erotic and sensual)

It isn't uncommon for the recipient to not experience a traditional orgasm. It still feels amazing. I don't *need* an orgasm, I just want more of *THAT*.

Perfectly normal.

- MM

[sarab]

Have been with a man a few years ago, mainly just oral and mutual body rubbing, but enjoyed it immensely. Would be more than willing to do it again in girl mode. I was shocked at how naturally I slipped into that stereotypical female mode when I was with him....passive and somewhat submissive but totally enraptured.

[flatlander_48]

I was shocked at how naturally I slipped into that stereotypical female mode when I was with him....passive and somewhat submissive but totally enraptured.

s:

Understood. I agree with exactly what you said. While the experience was long before I dressed, I decided that I wanted to have the experience from the passive perspective. Afterwards, what occurred to me was just what you said. I had slipped into That Mode with no regrets and no hesitation. I was just being another part of me that I had not experienced before.

However, there is a parallel here for me regarding dressing. When I did start to dress, I experienced very little of the shame and guilt that many talk about. When I first started going out, the thought was never "What am I doing in the "wrong" clothes?". Once again, I was just being another part of me that I had not experienced before.

It's a bit surprising to consider, but perhaps coming out as bisexual a few years before I started dressing perhaps set the stage. I think it made dealing with the idea of being transgender easier.

It may seem odd as this isn't how it works out for most people. However, if there is one thing that I've learned, there isn't a whole lot about me that is like most people.

DeeAnn

[MissVirginia-Mae]

I am straight but fantasize about it when I am dressed...
I am thinking once I become Miss Virginia-Mae 24/7 that I may end up becoming Bi....

[Karla Edwards]

I've enjoyed reading this thread.

I really want to do it but I am wondering if I am going to regret it later. My questions are
1. Has anyone done it before? Yes, I have on several occasions.
2. Did you feel guilty later about it? It was more of a realization rather than guilt. I never equated my dressing as a sign of being gay or bi but my dressing did open the way to trying things I'd been curious of.
3. Did you get addicted to being with a guy? I wouldn't say it's an addiction. I thoroughly enjoyed my experiences and like anything else I try, I want to learn and improve.
4. Did you decide to go fulltime after being with a guy? Never crossed my mind.
Most Importantly
5. Was it more pleasurable than straight sex? How did you feel? It was equally pleasurable and for different reasons. And although when I take on the femme role I'm very submissive, there was a sense of power; that in the end, the entire interaction was possible because I was there as Karla.

I've realized that unless a twisted definition of bi sexual is used then I'm probably bi sexual at this point and at the very least, I have strong bi sexual tendencies. Call it what you want but I call it “Happy”. I'm generally an introspective type person but for some reason on this matter I'm not.

[nikkiwindsor]

I've never been with a guy and don't have intention to do so. I'm attracted to women and my supportive wife more than anyone else. I do like the attention from male admirers b/c I find that it affirms my femininity.

[Gingerpriss]

I thought for the longest time that "I like to feel fem, so i must be gay" so I engaged in a few nights with a couple different boys. Turns out I must be real girl inside and a lesbian if I am gay. I love women, I love my wife. i'm not saying i didnt enjoy it with those guys, but I enjoy the company of a woman way more. If that makes sense.

[mechamoose]

Feeling receptive to male advances has nothing to do with gender presentation. I can, however, see where those lines cross. Perhaps you have never linked up with a very aggressive female?

My (wife approved) goat-boy of a lover is a typical male. All dom, fur and sweat. (He has a super cute butt.) He wants to treat me like girl, and I oblige.. only because I want to turn him on. Nothing to do with me, all about him.


I want you to want me
I need you to need me
I'd love you to love me
I'm begging you to beg me

- Cheap Trick

My life took a huge left-hand turn after linking up with an avowed lesbian. We had a happy life together, I wouldn't trade a minute of it. (Ok, maybe some. Dee, are you out there honey? I miss you.)

Relationships are just that, relationships. Gender (express or implied) doesn't come into it. We Are Who We Are (La Cage aux Folles) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcXBHqZVrRw)

"People are people" - TFF