ummm.... I would love it, and since we are all friends, having a guy be with you when you are dressed really does something for me!!
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ummm.... I would love it, and since we are all friends, having a guy be with you when you are dressed really does something for me!!
i fantasize about it alot.... where would one meet a guy while dressed?
Well, I really love pretty girls the most, but I must say it's crossed my mind. I don't know if it'll ever happen though. I'm still too shy to even go out dressed at all!
[SIZE="2"]I only think it would be something nice to experience, when all dolled up. I never feel that way, when in drab! I came oh so close, half a dozen times, on alternative dating sites, but, chickened out each time![/SIZE]
A club, the restaurant, grocery store or the movies but be careful of men trying to get at your booties! we love youQuote:
Originally Posted by Kasey66
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Originally Posted by seanmuscle
That is the whole point :D
I am totally attracted to women. I tell people all the time I am a lesbian trapped in a mans body. But recently a member saw my pictures and PM'ed me. She gave me a nice compliment that my pictures turned her on. Well, I felt pretty nice inside about it and it kind of excited me in return. I thought about her comments all day...... Thanks again D
Interesting dilemma, exciting a man in women's clothing whiile I look like a woman too and getting turned on in return.
The trouble with all these definitions that we carry round and stress over; hetrosexual/homesexual/bi-sexual, is that they are rigidly defined by physical identity at birth whereas in reality sex and arousal is largely a mental activity. I think that its therefore possible to be attracted to both men and women and still be straight, it just depends on our state of mind at the time. In the unlikely event that I ever wound up the courage to be with a man as Emma, the encounter to me would be entirely hetrosexual because I would be thinking as a woman, enjoying sex as a woman, not as a gay man.
Does that make sense to anybody or is it just a tortured peice of self justification? :D
I become completely femme when i am dressed and during my dressing times. Once i begin i feel 100% female and only think of being with a man and being his arm candy. No when i am drab i would not even consider being with a guy in a sexual way. It is very weird i know. But i have always felt this way. When i am out femme i am always checking out men and see if they are looking at me in any way.
I don think it's weird hope,my feelings for men are definitely stronger when I'm joanne,although I do have a slight attraction to men either or :)
The only man I would date is a man wearing a dress, and 4" heels. :daydreaming:
I have had the pleasure 2x in my life as Krissy. Both were sexual in nature and I absolutely loved feeling like a real woman (in my mind anyhow). How he looked at me as a woman and made me feel the same was so overwhelming and awesome.
Now I have to decide I guess after all these years if I'd do it again.. Sure would!!!!!
Alice and I have had several discussions on this subject.Quote:
Originally Posted by ReineD
My thought (and I am not speaking for Alice here) is that the generally straight-acting guys who are attracted to us are often at least closet CD's, or frustrated CD's who don't think they could pass well, or CD's who don't even yet admit that they are :)
I agree with Kelly that what matters is how you're treated.
-- Diane
Yes, Alice mentions this and I've read it elsewhere as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by dilane
This thread surprises me. There are many more TGs interested in men than I would have thought. I did a quick count .. I might have misread a few answers, but:
Out of 166 responses, remove 40 that are general discussion (or multiple posts) or undertermined answers. This leaves 126 responses.
Yes, would be or have been with a man or TG = 62
Interested when dressed (perhaps not all the way), but not while in drab = 30
Not interested in being with a man or TG = 34
Only 25% of TGs responded they are only interested in GGs. Interesting.
I find that interesting too,Quote:
Originally Posted by ReineD
because about 9 months ago, those figure were swapped the the other way around, where I saw only a handful that were interested in guys, and everyone else proclaimed they only liked women and always would...
But then again, Over a short period of time I've seen many more once considered cders now consider themselves transsexuals..
Has the crowd in here changed that much?
Must be a virus going around...:heehee:
Reminds me of the joke:Quote:
Originally Posted by Karen564
What's the difference between a CD and a TS?
About 2 years ...
There's some truth in this. I've had eight friends and acquaintances (all but one very passable, btw) move from mini-skirted barbie-type CD's to transitioned TS's.
I've been out and about since about '87, and no, not everyone I know transitions, by a long shot.
(only the ones I bite on the neck :)
-- Diane
True, but maybe they're becoming more honest with themselves (and others) with what they want.Quote:
Originally Posted by dilane
Definitely men.
Gotta be with women. Men do nothing for me. The thought of being pursued by a guy sends me running to women.
A lot of interesting responses though.
I've been married for 40+ years and have been exclusively hetero (lesbian?) But in high school I was a slim late bloomer (closeted CD) with probably low testosterone levels and no sexual experience (at least with some one else). Gay guys would hit on me, but I never encouraged them. Once my best friend wanted me to give him oral sex, but I wouldn't (didn't know what that meant!). Now I think more and more about those interactions, and yes, if I weren't married, I think I would like to start dating men. At least that is my fantasy.
This is a complex issue actually - it seems to be very much different depending on who you are and what you like. When I'm a guy I'm exclusively interested girls ( like most normal guys ) But when I'm Panda i exclusively desire men - real men though. I have on a few occasions enjoyed the company of gay guys but they tend to go for guys on the whole - not guys who like to be girls so much - it never works out at least in my experience.
I don't have any problems with being Bi - but funny thing is it's pretty easy being straight, it's also pretty easy being gay - if you are somehwere in between it can get aq bit confusing *grins*
You're so industrious, I like it :). I thought the results were sort of weird, but there's also self selection selection bias. People (like me, lol) like to post their personal stories to threads likeQuote:
Originally Posted by ReineD
these, so the people responding yea to men are probably a larger percentage here than on the site in general. Or, there's a guess, anyway.
I think it's also important that some people fantasize that it'd be hot, and then some engage in sexy fun time. There's probably a big difference between what we think is hot but think we shouldn't do, think is hot and can't do, and do do. Yeah, I said "do do."
I don't know, it's all so complicated.
Oooh! dilane. Please bite my neck! HA! Ha!
When I'm dress it would be fun to have a guy want me; it would be exciting. I only been out once fem and it was exciting, was with my wife at that time. I think at would be interesting and exciting to have a guy cone up to you when dress sexy or such and to be treated as a lady. and hopefully we could play together as me the female and he the male
In the realm of fantasy it's a fun thought. But I don't think I want the reality.
I had one expereince with a pre-op woman long before I met my wife and while it was fun, the reality of her plumbing just didn't turn me on.
I met her as a man and behaved as such at all times, but even if our roles had been reveresed I still think it would fail to live up to the fantasy. And as a result, for me, it will stay in the realm of make believe.
A little different when stuff starts poppin out huh... REALITY CHECK!:heehee:Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveDallas
[SIZE="2"]Have any of you girls had these experiences?
First; while out dressed en femme have you ever tried picking up a GG and did you have any luck?..........
As for me, no never even tried to pick up a GG while en femme.
Second; while out dressed en femme has a guy ever tried to pick you up and did he have any luck?........
As for me, yes {many years ago & just once} a guy tried and yes he got lucky.
Well, just sitting around thinking...guess I have to much time on my hands.
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I'm married, so I don't try to pick anyone up. I have been persued I guess you can say. I usually feel very aquward about it. I have no interest in guys but I don't want to hurt anyone either. I do have to say this though, I cant believe how persistant some guys can be. There was one incident where I thought I was going to have to beat a guy up because he was wayyyyy too agressive. Other than that one guy it wasn't too bad though. One kept trying to get my phone number, the other that I can remember kept asking me to dance with him, I said no, he asked why, I said I was with my wife, he said, "So?". The whole time he was talking he was also rubbing his belly button in a very creepy disturbing way.
Hello Susan!
Yes, I have been asked out, asked to dance and did even go out on a date once. This gender bending stuff is confusing. We try to be the best most feminine girls we can be, but get carried away. The end result is that when you are supposed to be a woman when sex is started, it is really just two men! Not womanly at all.
Without been too graphic I can't and I never perform as a man when sex is started and finished and yes we are only two men but sex is a beautiful thing if you do it with passion:hugs:Quote:
Originally Posted by charlie
:iagree:Quote:
Originally Posted by BARBARA_MELENDEZ
You got tht right Barbara!
Kel
But in the right time and place if he was a gentleman you never know.:oQuote:
Originally Posted by FanciJewel
I think about it all the time, but in reality I'm not sure if I could go through with it.
That seems like of of the last two steps that are the hardest go to.
Only when dressed though.
And not with a guy but just as a GG.
Would those last two steps be getting up and going home? :devil:Quote:
Originally Posted by prene
Hugs, Marci :hugs:
I'm happily married now and would never cheat on my wife, but in my younger, wilder days when I used to go out dressed in NYC I had encounters with men, other CDs, and GGs. Not all my adventures were good ones, but each type certainly had its charms, not the least of all with men. Sure there are a lot of creeps out there, but there are also a lot of sweet guys whose tastes just happen to run toward CDs.
There was something so fulfilling, so validating about being held by a man, being in the woman's role, being "taken" if you will. For me it was the ultimate feminine feeling, and there are times when I miss it-- but never enough to hurt the people I love.
That said, I still get turned on at intimate times with my wife when I think to myself that I've experienced things from her angle and how that felt. She doesn't know the kind of wild stuff I did before I met her (and for all I know or care, she was equally wild) and I think it's better that way... I'd hate for her to find out there are certain... arcane skill sets that her husband might do better than her :battingeyelashes:
Its not too bad getting with a guy enfemme, you just gotta hope its the right one, and he treats you well, cause a few wont. You also realise in this position how women really do get treated by men. I've had some "horror" ones who only think of themselves and are very persistant.
However, the ones who invite you up for a dance are usually the best ones.
I would love to have the experience as I think it would be special and neat. I have talked with guys before and many of them are persistent, which to me can be a turn on as well as off. My fear has always been what if they just want to hurt me so I have never acted on it. So lately I have thought it would be cool to meet a guy that could handle both sides.
I think it would just be nice to be with a nice man and be his woman.
I have done it several times and it has been wonderful. The men have treated me as a woman, they were courteous, affectionate, and I loved being out in public with a man as my date. The private times were very special.
I tried it when I was 21. Wanted to find out if I was gay since I crossdressed. Went to a gay bar. Didn't like the guys. Found a CDer. Went home with her and went all the way. In retrospect, I didn't care for it much. When the clothes came off, it was a let down since she wasn't a woman anymore. I can't be a guy with a guy. I've never fantasized about that. But, I do admit to fantasizing about being a woman during sex with my partner being a woman, or once in awhile, a man. That's why I believe that my sexual desire is part female as well as my gender identity. If I was a guy wanting guys, I'd say I was bi. But, I find that definition insufficient to cover my gender issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveDallas
Legz, you are close to what I see myself right this minute, but I'm still confused fifty years later. I always considered myself a heterosexual CDer until about 8 years ago. Now I'm not sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by legz31
I always check out women in real life but only dream of being a woman with a straight man. I think I would consider myself autogynophilia transsexual at this moment in time. But I am married and will probably never act on my desires.
And contrary to what I just said, if I could pick from a beautiful girl, a beautiful CDer and a handsome man; I would pick in that same order though the sex with the GG would as a lesbian. It's complicated.
I would not be interested in dating men. However, I would be interested in dating a crossdresser/TG. However, she'd have to be attractive and of course "passable." Fortunately, there's quite a few of those on these boards. That's why I have a lot of "crushes" on so many of you.
Hi Christine, wonderful heartfelt post. Reading the lines and between the lines I find your experience not much different than my own. My loneliness has been greatly reduced by the development of Tara, (parent of four kids). We are exceptional in our androgyny and our desire to express it, gender is not important, the heart of the parternership is.
I fantasize about being at a dimly lit bar sharing a drink with a male and then hitting the dance floor , but I'm not interested in going beyond that.
No, I'm not referring to any body part, naughty-minded people, I'm referring to Pornography, which everyone watches but no one admits to watching.
I think it's relevant to this discussion to wonder how many people on this forum watch TV porn and fantasize about themselves being the 'female' participant, how many fantasize about being the 'male' participant, and how many just go "Eeuuww!" at the whole concept.
I'm not stating a preference because I won't admit to watching porn on the internet, even tho in my nightly prayers to Whomever it May Concern I hope that no one ever subpoenas my ISP browsing records or confiscates my hard drive. :)
200 posts in this thread.
what's that tell you?
And thats just fine, I found it very interesting reading the replies on this thread. It really does confirm the research that has been done on us. I am one of the "bisexual" type. I love to be the total girl fully dressed when with a man. I have NO desire to have an emotional relationship with a guy, and only have sex with a "top" guy. So I guess you could say that I use them for my sexual pleasure. . .lol (but I also give pleasure to them). When I have sex with a gg, allot of times I will fantasize that I am her, which I thought I was the only one who did this. It was a relief when I found out I was not alone . . . :cheer: As a note, hygiene is important and safe guards for STD's should be considered !!!
"I have NO desire to have an emotional relationship with a guy, and only have sex with a 'top' guy." Hmmm...
I have several really good guy friends. We have fun together in the usual male way, but only a couple of them know about my other life (such as it is). Then there's this one fellow I've only known a few years but we have a lot in common and have gotten pretty loose -- we even skuffle with each other, both of us laughing. And occasionally watch TV together sitting on his sofa.
OK. Here's the deal. I could easily, easily see myself being a girl with him. Getting myself all dolled up (and for me that means garter belt, panties, nylons and heels) and... watching TV and movies on that sofa. Snuggling up against him. Him putting his arm around me. Him putting his hand up my dress. Him stroking my thigh. My falling in love with him... as a girl.
But... sex? I dunno. That would be... OK, maybe. But see, I'm one who wants the love, the emotional thing first. If this situatuion should ever happen -- and I find myself getting excited -- I'd be prepared to take it from there I suppose. And I do know what it means to be "topped" but I have to see that as pretty far down the line for me.
But, again... I dunno...
gracee
I guess I classify myself as bi-curious. I am without a doubt attracted to women, but I am not repulsed by the thought of being with a guy.
I don't think I could see myself in a relationship with a guy though. I think for me, it would just be sex. But then again, I've never tried, so I have no idea. I'd probably just go with the flow, but circumstances would have to be right for me to do it, and that is one of the reasons I haven't yet. Plus, the fear of potential STDs.
I have had a few encounters with men, some great others not so much. I loved the attention I got and gave. It is a learning experience just like anything else! I will say that I'm not totally into just men, I'm into the ladies very much also. :battingeyelashes: