Thought that the majority of the heterosexual crossdressers here describe their sexual preference within the first sentence of their introductions.....
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Thought that the majority of the heterosexual crossdressers here describe their sexual preference within the first sentence of their introductions.....
When you look at everything in whole, I would have to consider myself bi. I have always been straight (never had sex with another CD or male), but I have certain fantasies, and being dressed plays into it. I could give several valid reasons I have these fantasies and feelings, but what's the point? I'm not trying to convince myself or anyone of anything, so I just accept me for who I am. I can fully relate to the others who say they only have CD or male fantasies when dressed. I also know there are many who can't wrap their minds around that. I get that too. Things just are what they are. We have to take people at their word when they say they are straight (Unless evidence contradicts), for they are the best knowers of their own minds.
Put me in the Straight Column.
Yes. Just like in the "How many are bisexual" thread. Any comments in that thread that weren't direct responses were removed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ressie
This wasn't intended as a sexual orientation thread, just a question of how many were straight.
Someone (you) could start a thread about sexual orientation.
I am the same, Lacy. Not interested in men at all. Extremely happily married for many years to my sexy redhead. Out of respect for her, I don't dress up unless she will be gone all day or out of town. Even though you can't tell I am a guy when I am dressed as a girl, my wife isn't in to cross dressing so I have to keep everything in the closet. I love to dress up and look sexy and classy and don't overdo the makeup making me look like a guy in drag. I love everything about cross dressing - the excitement of shopping for the perfect skirts and tops, the buying of boots, booties, tights (black or brown), the putting on the makeup and the wig, putting together the jewelry and accessories, buying and putting on the undergarments. About the only thing I dislike about the process is the removal of the makeup and nail polish. I have found out that the best product to remove makeup is the Neutragena makeup wipes. The generic brands of these wipes don't work anywhere near as well as the Neutragena brand. Not sure about the spelling of "Neutragena" - sorry about that. As far as nail polish removal is concerned, any brand will do but I find I have to use a nail brush in addition to tissue or cotton balls to remove all of the polish.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lacy PJs
I do wish I had more time to go out in public while dressed up. I don't go out with a group of people, I go by myself. I have only been to the local movie theatre for a few late movies but would love to stroll through a mall or some place with more people around while dressed.
But back to the original subject, I have great friends who are gay or bi but I have never had any inclination to be with anyone but my wife. When I dress up, I feel very feminine because of the way I look and because of the way my self photos turn out. But I still have no desire to be with a man. I do have a desire to be with my wife while dressed, but I know that will never happen and I have to accept that fact. I do wonder if there are any other guys out there who have a similar situation like mine. If so, I would love to hear their input or feedback from you. That's it for now and thanks a bunch for reading my post....Scarlett
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Me too, Jacqueline...Nice sexy name by the way. I'm straight too and while dressed I guess I am a male lesbian who only has a desire to be with my wife...Scarlett
No they weren't there were many responses who said they were straight thereQuote:
Originally Posted by Krisi
And do you mean a specific number...like maybe 7329?
I meant exactly what I posted. My post and apparently many others were deleted from the "How many of you are bisexual".
Pretty much my feelings exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jacqueline85
Im not here to diminish anyone else's sexuality or feelings. But those are mine. I see no chance of it changing.
Zooey's comments are interesting. And it's something I know is not at all unusual. In that once transitioned you might change.
And Im completely neutral on the subject. I wouldnt expect it to affect me that way, but I know it might. And if it did - so what? If someone's preferences change then they are only making a change that suits them.
I dont judge other people sexuality and I prefer that people dont judge mine. I know what I prefer. In fact I couldnt even face the prospect of "the other". Not because of social conventions - but because it would kill me inside.
Hope that makes sense.
Who are they trying to impress when they dress up? In some cases, it is simple, themselves.
I dress to please me, not other men. Personally, I don't believe I am even attractive to men, or anyone else... other than myself.
Tracii sometimes when i go out I dress to blend in, other times it may be to impress. So whom am i impressing? in order - firstly and primarily myself, secondly my friends I am out with, thirdly other people (men and women). Yes at times i have enjoyed getting some attention from guys, but I have equally enjoyed getting some attention from women.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tracii G
My enjoyment of the attention is not in anyway sexual, its affirming to know that someone thinks I am attractive when dressed as a woman.
I'm straight I cd because I like it and been doing it since I was a kid.
I was confused when younger. I thought I may be gay. I had to be right? because everyone knows all crossdressers are gay. or so everyone said.
as I've gotten older I know for a fact that I'm not.
I am married, and love my wife dearly . she thinks I'm bi. however I have never hit on another man while dressed, even when drinking.
Kelli
I thought I was straight for a while but at this point I'd say I'm bi-curious. I was kinda afraid to admit it to myself for a while and dressing actually helped me open up to the thought of liking guys as well. I've never been with a guy at all and I'm not sure if I could be romantically attracted to a guy but I'm definitely sexually attracted to other men. Being en femme only adds to this
Bi! Probably have been most of my life but did not act on it until my early 30's. I am what I am, no excuses or explanations.
Straight and late- to this thread
I am. I love women as much as I like every aspect of femininity.
Ditto Megan182's comments.
Straight. No attraction to men.
Patti
Hard to say so will say bi curious, my wife says I am as well. My motto if it is pleasurable and harms no one why wouldnt you partake?
Straight with zero attraction to men. I will admit to being curious about my feelings toward other gurls, though.
I am a genetic female and consider myself to be straight. I just love straight men that wear woman's clothing. Never had an attraction to women.
I am straight but at times when dressed I have had a bit of bi curiosity. But at the same time, I have no attraction to men though.
I am 100% straight. That being said; if there happens to be a beautiful lady, and she happens to have a penis, she is still a lady in my eyes. My wife agrees to that statement and has encouraged me to consider finding a willing lady to join us in the future.
i'm straight, no matter if i'm dressed as a woman or in drab, i find nothing appealing about men at all
We should get our own thread with our own question, I suppose, because that's where I am.Quote:
Originally Posted by Happygirl!
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I don't personally believe they could actually refer to themselves as a lesbian even if they have the SRS Back to the point; if we are born genetic males, we can not claim to be anything exclusive to a genetic female, like being a lesbian. I agree with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lorileah
100% heterosexual--dressed or not.
Currently straight. While fantasies are just fantasies, if I ever decide to experiment and find that I like some of that stuff then I could change my answer to bi-sexual for sex, but I don't find men attractive at all (so likely straight with a possibility of sexual kinks). And I've never fully dressed up and went out so along those lines... no lo sé.
Now if you'd said that transwomen didn't face other issues that women face in a misogynistic, man-centric world, you'd perhaps be on the same footing as the TERFS. For example, we don't face the threat of rape. Oh no wait, I've faced that. In fact many of us who are raped face especially savage rapes. Guys don't target us as victims of crime because we aren't real women. Oh wait, no, that's happened to me too. In fact, I worry about being out on the street after dark now. We definitely aren't talked over by men, ignored, or our input totally disregarded. Except - all those things happen to me on a routine basis now.
If you mean I should continue to be punished because I had a hellish, nightmare existence where I desperately tried to be something I just wasn't (a man), and because I missed out on both good events in a young woman's life, as well as some bad ones, then i just think you are kind of mean spirited.
Oh, to answer the question originally posed by this thread, and the logic many of you seem to use, obviously I'm arrow straight. Yup, straighter than straight. Before transition, I was married to two different women. And apparently, since my transition doesn't count, I guess the label for my sexual orientation didn't change either? So what am I? What if I date a cisgender woman now? What would you call my sexual orientation? How about if I date another trans woman? Or, as is the case for me, what if I'm engaged to a transgender (FtM) man? Am I straight in that case, because in your mind I'm a man and he's a woman? Or if I date a trans woman, are we both just a couple of gay dudes with boobs?
But don't worry much if I seem to be chiding you over your use of terminology. Hey, the CDC classifies me and my fiancé (trans woman + trans man) as if we are both just a couple of gay dudes - we are listed as "men who have sex with men" and prohibited from blood donation. Perhaps you can explain that one to me.
Oh, one last thing - something I've observed over my lifetime. People who are really straight don't talk about how straight they are. Seriously, they just don't. :)
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Originally Posted by DarthDaddicus
@ PaulaQ
I certainly didn't mean to open your particular can of worms there, but I mean what I say. Those who are born and raised as boys can not claim to be anything which is regarded as strictly female. Only genetic females can be lesbian. I was born with masculine parts, so I am straight. Even though I've always felt like a lady, I am a man and I have all of the ridiculous privileges that come along with it. Life may have been harder for you in your particular case, but for the most part, men have it too easy to go around claiming they can be anything a woman can be. That's especially true because women have been denied rights equal to men for too long for them to have to tolerate a male coming around claiming they are a female when they most certainly are not.
Neato. There are actually parts of what you wrote that are almost sensible, but you veered off course around the middle.
I'll be sure to let all those men know to stop oppressing me like other women, because it doesn't count for their scoreboard according to a dude in a dress on the Internet.
Somewhere along a spectrum. Seriously. Labels are so often inadequate and/or inaccurate. Yes, they're handy. I am a "cross dresser", but that doesn't define my sexual preference. Nor does it, really, define my gender identity. Not all the time. It's just a handy term for the guy that likes to be Kelly sometimes.Quote:
Originally Posted by PaulaQ
If one is comfortable adopting a label, that's fine. To be sure, there is frequently some comfort in that kind of "conformity", but we should never force others into this or that box, nor should we tell them that they can't use this or that label because they don't fit the "standard" (or your particular) definition. By the same token, I bristle every time I hear the expression "just a [insert label here]", referring either to others or one's self.
Getting a bit off topic aren't we?
The term "male lesbian" would be a topic for a different thread.
Definitely bisexual
Words that we have traditionally used, in the cis-world, to describe someone’s sexual orientation cannot be used in the trans-world with the same understanding. Words like "straight", "gay", "lesbian" traditionally describe not only a person’s sexual orientation, they also describe a person’s gender identity.
The cis-world presumes that a person’s gender identity matches their birth sex and in this scenario, the following words have these meanings:
- Straight: the attraction of one sex to another.
- Gay: the attraction of one male-sex person to another male-sex person.
- Lesbian: the attraction of one female-sex person to another female-sex person.
- Bi: the attraction of one sex to both the other sexes.
In the trans/CD-world, these situations exist:
- Male-sex presenting as a woman, attracted to male-sex presenting as a man.
- Transitioned female (with new vagina), attracted to male-sex presenting as a man.
- Female-sex presenting as a man, attracted to male-sex presenting as a man.
- Transitioned male (with bottom surgery), attracted to male-sex presenting as a man.
- Male-sex presenting as a woman, attracted to male-sex presenting as a woman.
- Transitioned female (with new vagina), attracted to male-sex presenting as a woman.
- Female-sex presenting as a man, attracted to male-sex presenting as a woman.
- Transitioned male (with bottom surgery), attracted to male-sex presenting as a woman.
- Male-sex presenting as a woman, attracted to transitioned female (with new vagina).
- Transitioned female (with new vagina), attracted to transitioned female (with new vagina).
- Female-sex presenting as a man, attracted to transitioned female (with new vagina).
- Transitioned male (with bottom surgery), attracted to transitioned female (with new vagina).
- Male-sex presenting as a woman, attracted to female-sex presenting as a woman.
- Transitioned female (with new vagina), attracted to female-sex presenting as a woman.
- Female-sex presenting as a man, attracted to female-sex presenting as a woman.
- Transitioned male (with bottom surgery), attracted to female-sex presenting as a woman.
- Male-sex presenting as a woman, attracted to female-sex presenting as a man.
- Transitioned female (with new vagina), attracted to female-sex presenting as a man.
- Female-sex presenting as a man, attracted to female-sex presenting as a man.
- Transitioned male (with bottom surgery), attracted to female-sex presenting as a man.
- Male-sex presenting as a woman, attracted to transitioned male (with bottom surgery.
- Transitioned female (with new vagina), attracted to transitioned male (with bottom surgery.
- Female-sex presenting as a man, attracted to transitioned male (with bottom surgery.
- Transitioned male (with bottom surgery), attracted to transitioned male (with bottom surgery.
- Male-sex presenting as a woman, attracted to any combination of male-sex presenting as a man, male-sex presenting as a woman, transitioned female (with new vagina).
- Male-sex presenting as a woman, attracted to any combination of female-sex presenting as a woman, female-sex presenting as a man, transitioned male (with bottom surgery).
- Transitioned female (with new vagina), attracted to any combination of male-sex presenting as a man, male-sex presenting as a woman, transitioned female (with new vagina).
- Transitioned female (with new vagina), attracted to any combination of female-sex presenting as a woman, female-sex presenting as a man, transitioned male (with bottom surgery).
- Female-sex presenting as a man, attracted to any combination of male-sex presenting as a man, male-sex presenting as a woman, transitioned female (with new vagina).
- Female-sex presenting as a man, attracted to any combination of female-sex presenting as a woman, female-sex presenting as a man, transitioned male (with bottom surgery).
- Transitioned male (with bottom surgery), attracted to any combination of male-sex presenting as a man, male-sex presenting as a woman, transitioned female (with new vagina).
- Transitioned male (with bottom surgery), attracted to any combination of female-sex presenting as a woman, female-sex presenting as a man, transitioned male (with bottom surgery).
- Male-sex presenting as a man, attracted to male-sex presenting as a woman.
- Male-sex presenting as a man, attracted to a transitioned female (with new vagina).
- Male-sex presenting as a man, attracted to female-sex presenting as a man,.
- Male-sex presenting as a man, attracted to a transitioned male (with bottom surgery).
- Female-sex presenting as a woman, attracted to male-sex presenting as a woman.
- Female-sex presenting as a woman, attracted to a transitioned female (with new vagina).
- Female-sex presenting as a woman, attracted to female-sex presenting as a man,.
- Female-sex presenting as a woman, attracted to a transitioned male (with bottom surgery).
Can you all see what the problem is here? In the trans-world,we need to stop trying to use words that describe at the same time, a person’s gender ID and their sexual orientation. We need simply to say, "I’m attracted to my partner". :)
... or, we need to come up with 40+ new words. I didn't even get into the "sometimes" scenarios, as in "I'm attracted to "x" while dressed, but "y" while not dressed".
That darned vowel, and sometimes Y lol. My response was sort of what you are talking about. I'm sexually attracted to women, I didn't label it.
we're 180+ responses into this. The OP can define "straight" otherwise the discussion of the variants continues. Reine has listed options. Is a crossdresser who likes men while dressed "straight"? I would say the TSs here who have responded are "straight" in that they like men.
OP, do you wish to amend your question and make it clearer?
It's actually much simpler if you simply allow that someone's gender identity is more real than their so-called biological sex. (This notion of biological sex as a binary totally erases intersex people, by the way.) This would imply that trans women are women, trans men are men, and a straight trans woman is attracted to male identified people, a gay transman is attracted to male identified people, a lesbian is attracted to female identified people, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by ReineD
The trouble with saying "I'm attracted to my partner" is that it totally erases gender and sexual minorities. This may not seem like a big deal if you are a cis-het person, but believe me, as a member of a GSM, erasure is awful. It does, in fact, kill people.
I guess, though, the party line here is that trans women are still men, and trans men are still women?Quote:
Originally Posted by Darth Daddicus
Should I be able to have an "F" on my driver's license? Should I be able to use a women's restroom? If I go to jail, should I be housed with the men? (This would be really dangerous for me since I have a vagina!) Should an employer be able to fire me since I won't meet their dress code standards for men? (I don't even look like a man when I'm wearing men's clothing, btw.) In fact should I have any rights at all?
You seem to be implying that all trans women are just men. This is a really mean thing to say to all of the trans women on this forum. If you meant something else - and I don't see how to interpret what you've said and clarified now any other way - I'd love to hear it.
however: I will ask that we get back on the OP's question of "are you straight" Thanks
Yes, I'm straight. And so is my SO. One of my SO's favorite videos: :)
Straight here too.
I fall into ReineD's "sometimes" category. I am attracted to "x" while dressed but attracted to "y" while not dressed.
Men are yucky hairy apes .....I know, I'm one most of the time. :D
I will admire a good looking CD but that's where it ends.
I'm only attracted to gg's.
What a question. I would consider myself bi. I love women and making love with one. I also like making love with a woman with me dressed as woman. I do have fantasies of be with a man, BUT with conditions. He has to be smooth, little or no body hair, no a hard masculine looking man, a bit softer than most.
Stunning picture Samantha 2015!
Samantha 54
Straight
I thought I made it pretty clear. I was assuming I was asking MTF crossdressers. I didn't think I had to specify that because I posted in the MTF crossdressers section, not the transsexual section. If it needs clarification, here it is revised:Quote:
Originally Posted by Lorileah
For MTF crossdressers only, how many are "straight" (sexually attracted to women only)?
Krisi, I sense your frustration. Forum rules allow you to direct questions or topics for discussion to specific groups, and ask those who don't fall into the specified group to refrain from replying. "How many are straight males..." seems clear to me. It's a simple question complicated by those who don't identify as straight males.
My answer: I'm a straight male whose sexual orientation (and gender identity) doesn't change when I crossdress.
Thank you. It would be simpler if this forum supported polls. Straight? Gay? Bisexual?
Krisi, your poll would still be skewed for the reasons I tried to explain in my rather long post above (which was an attempt to make a point). You take it that for CDers, "straight" means an attraction to women. But in your poll, there would still be a number of non-TS people who would think themselves same-sex attracted because they are still attracted to their wives when dressed. And if they're attracted to men while dressed, they might well reply "straight". Also, there are people whose attraction changes according to how they're dressed.
It gets really confusing when putting it terms of "straight", "gay", or "bi". Best to ask if they're attracted to men or women. Or if they say they're bi, are they always attracted to both regardless of how they're dressed, or does "both" mean it changes from one to the other depending on the presentation. And then how does one classify an attraction to another CDer, if the responder believes the other CDer is a woman when dressed.
Not wanting to be flippant, just saying we need to find words that don't describe a gender identity at the same time as a sexual attraction if you want an accurate sense of who our members are attracted to.
Update noted: Please everyone reply in accordance to OPQuote:
Originally Posted by Krisi
As to the assumption, if you read the FAQs you will note this section is open to EVERYONE. It is the main section of the site and has no restrictions as to your or any person's gender identity or make up.
I agree that every sex and gender combination being attracted to every sex and gender combination might benefit from new terms to describe all those kinds of relationships. But I still think the question is simple and should get simple answers. Maybe because my square peg fits nicely into the that square hole of a question. I am a straight male (attracted to women only) whose subject of attraction doesn't change when I crossdress. That is, no, I am not attracted to men when I crossdress. The answer to the question is either "yes, me" or "no, not me". Gender identity isn't part of the question or the answer.
For me, I don't think about my attraction to someone when I'm crossdressed. I'm "in the moment" of enjoying my dressup session.