Quote Originally Posted by JackieInPA View Post
I think a big problem here is the fact that women can NOW wear pants/shorts/skirts whatever they want, but many people who make this argument fail to realize that women had to FIGHT for the ability to do so without social stigma, like we are doing now. Their battle just came earlier in history. Most societies have had 60or 70 years to come to terms with women not being forced to wear nothing but skirts/dresses. People now see the fruits of their labor but have forgotten that labor. Just in the last century have women fought their way up the societal ladder from being thought of as nothing more than breeders and servants to men, and actually still have some ways to go.

Part of what we need to do is not to tear women down...but to build them up. We need to truly as a society embrace the concept that men and women are equals. Until this happens men doing anything 'womanly' will be looked at as demeaning themselves, and worthy of ridicule.
That last line speaks volumes!! Well put!
Before you take aim at me let me explain where I'm at. I'm not in a position to lead this battle. I go out dressed and get my wig atyled. I shop enmale and enfemme for clothes but I'm not looking to make the news, quite the contrary. The reasons are mine and no one here knows them well enough to judge them.
I agree that this is the ultimate underlying problem. Women had a huge struggle to have society accept them wearing pants but I think the difference was that society at the time could appreciate the motivation. I think most of society hasn't or can't see the motivation yet so that first needs to change. Not an easy thing when society is currently focused on encouraging/accepting females in more amd more traditionally male roles. It is kind of tough to fight for and gain acceptance of wearing pantyhose, when both those who can and those who can't generally don't want to.
To the OP, I appreciate you and your mate putting yourselves out there to the degree you feel comfortable and that is the best any of us can do, to help make the change we generally want. Some can scream from the mountain top, others can meerly whisper, and some need to stay quiet. The pace of change may be agonizingly slow but as another post mentioned the younger generation now routinely have 2 ears pierced, get eyebrow waxing, chest wax and wear skinny jeans. I doubt I'll be around when we hit paydirt but it is improving, thanks to all who help!