I only hate the term because people automatically think you have sex with men.Originally Posted by Angie G
What I don't like is the know it all who use the word and show everyone how stupid they are. And Kate why do you hate being called Gay you make it sound dirty. By saying you hate to be called gay to my it put you down to there level. I know some very nice gay people they don't judge others except for there stupid thoughts.
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Could be worse . . . people could assume one has sex with women.
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Strangers can call me anything they like...They don,t know me, so what differance does it make!!!
Does that mean if somebody calls me a bitch, they think i have sex with dogs?
Or if somebody calls me a b*st*rd, they doubt my parentage?
I think your taking things too personally myself...Just ignore them!!
Could be worse . . . people could assume one has sex with women.
An analogy: "Oh you're a vegetarian, obviously you love broccoli"
Veg: "BROCCOLI?! I HATE broccoli! I've NEVER eaten broccoli, I get sick if I even THINK about broccoli!"
compare with: "No, broccoli doesn't appeal to me"
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WONDERFULLY said Deb. We are so caught up on what others are doing...why don't we just be who and what we are and to hell with them. It is a full time job just being myself without worrying what "others" are doing. I don't have time for them.
I go 24/7 all the time and I've yet to have anyone call me a name such as I have seen on this thread. So maybe it is our own consciousness that is drawing these labels to us.
Change your thinking and change your life! (and carry a big stick....hehehe)
Shoot. Gay people are more accepted than this! The public can almost stomach that but let a man put on a dress, oh noooooo.
So I guess good, let 'em think I am gay, they are gonna think that anyway. Then they might be able to halfway see it. But in no way can they understand a hetero man CDing. Nor do they want to understand it.
Not to say I'd ever do it but hell, since I have some fantasies about actually being with a man while dressed I must have some bi tendencies I don't want to admit to myself anyways. In that fantasy I see myself as a hetero female all the way. Who knows, maybe I am TS "at times". Just all over the freggin map.
It would not bother me at all. After all it is not what others think of me, it is about what I think of me.
And honestly, if someone is calling me gay out of hate, then they can just go $$$$ themselves!
And if they are asking me, I just introduce them to my wife.
If it takes being considered gay to get people to accecpt me as a crossdresser, I'd welcome being called gay.
Or if they are threatening and using stereotypes, I might remind them that some of the best known crossdressers in the movies were homicidal maniacs. It could work as I flash my dazzleing smile at them and pull the chainsaw from my clutch purse.
Amen Sharon, you took the words right out of my mouth:D...I dont give a rats *ss about what they think, I probably would never see them again anyway, i can live fine without ignorant people like that:2c:
so who cares????:brolleyes:
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It isn't broccoli they assume about vegetarians: it is mushrooms. They take the regular recipe, take out the meat, and put in mushrooms. Somehow that's supposed to be protein. And I'm supposed to love it, since "after all, mushrooms are vegetables!" (oh no they aren't!!!)
(There are things I am more allergic to than molds and fungi, but people don't go around putting beech pollen in my food.)
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The word "gay" doesn't bother me one bit, the word can actually be quite erotic...
I don't like labels either, but what are you gonna do?
People have just begin to learn to accept gays and now, here we are... Somewhere in the middle.
I've often thought of having a T-shirt made up that says...
"Transgender is not gay!" with the triangle TG symbol in the background... But would anyone, except us understand?
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I could easily live withat label
yes, indeed
and there used to be buttons like this:
"how dare you presume I'm heterosexual"
For a long time as a child i was terrified that crossdressing made me gay.
Now though, I almost don't care at all what people think and I understand that they're not the same thing.
It does bother me that most people when they find out immediatly ask if I'm gay. I suppose sometimes it's a propositon tho....
im a lesbian..i only like girls...my views on gays would only lead to a flame war..suffice to say i do not like guys and in fact i like to only buy items from ladies which includes even a new vehicle from my local car dealership...i do not trust the male gender and i am one....99% of my close friends are in fact GG women...dont ask me why but thats always been the case with myself
I don't get why that is the first thing that pops into a persons head when you say that you cross dress.. one has nothing to do with the other... I've said this before; I told a woman that I was talking to on line that I cross dress and the first thing she asked was am I gay.. and my answer was no and that cross dressing has nothing to do with being gay, that most cross dressers aren't gay and that most gay men don't even think of dressing as women..
This is what I mean by "every guy can look like a girl from the right angles".. this is one of the first pictures of me dressed up.. very vague look.. almost fem...
An analogy: "Oh you're a vegetarian, obviously you love broccoli"
I've thought about that analogy myself. The one that just came to me is my perfect example of how I feel. Because I'm tall, people are always asking me if I played basketball. I like basketball well enough, and I'm not necessarily offended, but if you're going to judge me on how I look, are you a horse jockey? Then I wait for the response as whether or not I like zone or man on man defense
What's kind of funny is that while a lot of cross-dressers are keen to make sure everyone knows they're not gay, there are also a lot of gay men who are keen to make sure everyone knows they're not (gasp!) cross-dressers.
Each group seems to feel it would be worse stigmatized by association with the other (tee-hee!).
But seriously. When I was young I was paralyzed and traumatized by the idea that anyone might think I was gay. At the time I knew no gay men, and would have fled from them if they had made friendly overtures.
Today one of my close friends is a gay man. I'm not attracted to him, and I'm pretty sure he's not attracted to me. The idea of guys doing it with other guys is just not a big deal to me anymore. Not very interesting, either.
I'm sure some people think I'm gay. I'm sure others have no idea that anything unusual is going on with me! Either way, it hardly matters.
Being called names by bigots is a different matter. That's scary, but mainly because of the potential for violence.
Now, if someone called me a "fashion victim," THAT would hurt!
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I have to say, like a couple of other girls who have posted in this thread I am also bi.
it does bug me though for some reason. I guess part of that is because well... I used to only date boys before I started dressing. um... being Michaela turned me into a bit of a lesbian essentially so I have a few issues that surround the whole gay-str8 issue...
I have to say though, it doesn't really matter. only people who are close to me should know the difference and chances are if I know them that well I have already helped them to understand. Anyone else's opinion doesn't matter to me
I'd prefer to be gay, probably. At least then my partner might be interested in sex.
I reiterate... I have no idea where these "women" are that you come across. Last I looked, it was my GAY male friends that had MORE women around them then all of my heterosexual male friends did combined. And its not just on a "friendship" level. If you ask the majority of the GG population if gay men turn them off, they'll laugh at you and tell how how good looking most of them are, how well they dress and how understanding they can be. If you ask them whether they would sleep with their gay male friends if given the opportunity, I can guarantee the majority of them would say yes. Why? Because women love the PERSONALITY more than they do the looks, money, etc.
Amen!
My thoughts exactly.
Kate you put yourself out there by making statements that sound like being called gay is the worst thing someone could call you.
Oh amen to that too sister!
I don't get upset when anyone assumes I'm gay or straight even though I'm neither. What DOES bother me is someone making a statement that sounds like being called that is disgusting.
WHO CARES if someone thinks you sleep with men?! Do you? No? Fine then move along! Geez! Such a big deal over something so minor. Bi's and gays are presumed straight every single day by everyone around us and WE don't freak out, bitch, complain and make it sound like we were just called something vile. Get over it!
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Every time I was called gay - I lost a job, friendship, or a possible date with a girl. And if they think you have sex with men, coworkers will give you hell and you don't last long. So the gay label is a big deal, and you can't protect yourself from employemnt discrimination and lawsuits are a losing matter! You gotta keep it all under the rug at work!
