Quote Originally Posted by battybattybats View Post

Sometimes the discomfort and suffering is needed, like putting antiseptic on a wound, or the pain of a vaccination.

I hope all the TG's are listening and taking note and when they are ready to put up with the discomfort and pain then and only then have they the right to ask those of us with Kids to expose them to what they themselves are doing until then they have no damn right to expect a 12 year old (insert your kids ages in here) to do what fully fledge adults will not