As you can see looking through these posts, there are a lot of people out there who call themselves crossdressers but have transgender feelings, and many of them are in a sort of state of denial because they don't want to disturb their family situation, or because they're afraid. Don't make excuses. Don't say "I'm too old" -- a 65-year-old friend of mine just got SRS two years ago. Just be honest with yourself. It's OK to admit you're afraid to transition. I'm a huge wimp, and the whole idea of being TS is terrifying.



Quote Originally Posted by Michelle S View Post
The term "tgirl" is ambiguous. It could mean TS or TG. TG is an umbrella term that covers both TS and CD. I regard myself as CD and hence as TG. I would never give up my male side. I sometimes think of myself as bi-gendered, although that term is used in different ways.
Yeah, T-girl could mean either Transgender-girl or Transsexual-girl. But since when is TG an umbrella that covers CDs? Look at the words. Crossdressing is about clothes. Transgendered is about gender. Obviously you can identify as both a crossdresser and as transgendered, or as varying degrees of either, but the bottom line is that crossdressing simply means wearing the clothes of the opposite sex and that does not necessarily make you transgendered. TG does not include all CDs -- certainly not the fetishistic ones.



Quote Originally Posted by Nicki B View Post
Wow.. Yet again, divided by a common language. :rolleyes:

I've never met people before who define TGirl as equivalent to TS - it's always, IME, been intended as a wide, catch-all term for everybody? The T, btw, can stand for whatever you want
The "T" in "T-girl" stands for whatever you want??? It's a catch-all for everybody? So, in your experience, people commonly call their mother, father, brothers, sisters, neighbors and pets T-girls? That's obviously asinine.

T-girl is simply an abbreviation. It can be an abbreviation for either Transsexual-girl or Transgendered-girl. The point in an abbreviation is that it is a shortening of a term that is in common use. If several members lived in the Tunisian Republic then maybe we'd start using T-girl to refer to them, too, but the "T" in "T-girl" obviously doesn't mean "crossdresser."

Divided by a common language? More like divided by a lack of common sense.



Quote Originally Posted by Sherry-Stephanie View Post
Am illness 10 years ago left me incapale of being able to do the manly thing..so what woman would be interested in me. I'm not interested in totally transitionng and have the plumbing removed because I am not opposed to my maleness...I'm just thinking of improving on my female presentation...
There are a lot of women who aren't interested in sex. Don't try to be something you're not just because you don't think people will be into you. Sure, not as many women will be interested, but if you like women then don't give up on them as a gender.



Quote Originally Posted by Nessa88 View Post
Tgirl or Tranny is VERY offensive to most Transgendered people. Almost as offensive as the N-word is to black people.
I don't find T-girl offensive. But I don't find many things offensive -- except "gurl" -- that one really makes me shudder. It's probably good to equate "tranny" to the N word. I would be very offended if someone who didn't like me called me a tranny, but among TG friends we call each other tranny sometimes in a very friendly way.



Quote Originally Posted by Nessa88 View Post
Second off, Crossdressers and Transgendered people are NOT the same. The difference is obvious. We live as men and not full time as women. Transgendered people live FULL TIME as the other gender.
Simply feeling female makes you transgendered. I would also argue that you need to have the desire to be accepted and treated as female by others. After all, we don't know how anybody feels. I don't know how the average female feels. I don't know how the average male feels. I just know how I feel, and whether that is labeled as male or female is just semantics. The point is that I want to be accepted as female.

But you don't have to present as female full time to be TG. I know many people who are TG -- many of whom are on hormones -- who do not present as female 24/7.

The most accepted definition of transsexual is:

"The desire to live and be accepted as a member of the opposite sex, usually accompanied by the wish to make his or her body as congruent as possible with the preferred sex through surgery and hormone treatment"

People have different feelings regarding whether or not you need a strong drive to get SRS to be considered transsexual, and some people even argue that you're not really transsexual if you're not full time. That's why we have the more encompassing term transgendered so that there isn't bickering about whether or not someone's really transsexual. But there's nothing wrong with anybody who dreams of being accepted as the opposite sex being called transgendered whether or not they're dressed like it, whether or not they want surgery. I usually call myself TG because I don't want to stir up the trannier-than-thou crowd of transsexuals.