*eyeroll* FAIL. Way to be condescending...did it occur to you that maybe that's what Abraxas was asking, ways to help us LEARN to deal with the effects of testosterone? At what point did he say he wanted to AVOID the effects of testosterone? Wouldn't that kind of defeat the whole purpose of BEING on testosterone in the first place when you're FtM?Originally Posted by Hope
Wow. Way to make assumptions about the kinds of effects Abraxas was asking about and brand all of us as aggressive, oversexed idiots. Thanks, but none of us here are idiots and I think I'm pretty safe to say that none of us are the kind of chauvinist, misogynistic pig you seem keen to paint us as by making those assertions about what we "need" to learn and being so condescending and arrogant.You have to learn that you can't have sex whenever you want to - no matter how desperately; and that even looking at a woman for too long, or at all can cause you trouble. You have to learn that you can't simply punch the enormous number of people who so desperately deserve it. You have to learn that you can't even yell and scream at some jerk who really deserves to loose a couple of teeth. This is part of why so many guys sports involve fighting - it's a pressure release. But if you engage in any of them be prepared for the women who will tell you all about how barbaric the sports are - which of course only makes you want to punch them.
Again, wow. At what point did Abraxas or anyone else for that matter say anything about resorting to "some sort of chemical means to alleviate the effects of testosterone"? That's a pretty damn broad and ignorant assumption you are making without any sound basis (and see my previous comment about it defeating the purpose of BEING on T in the first place).Only in very rare circumstances will a guy resort to some sort of chemical means to alleviate the effects of testosterone - and in most of those circumstances it is done unwillingly or unwittingly.
Perhaps this is a part of why male emotional life is so restricted. It has to be.
So you are basically saying that no GMs use acne medication, or possibly take any sort of medications to help with overactive sex drives or aggression if they become a problem that interferes with daily life, or watch their diet because T makes your appetite increase, and that FtMs should just shut up and grin and bear it? I think not. That comes across as incredibly judgemental of FtMs who are learning to deal with testosterone later than GMs do and don't have the social conditioning or support around it to help us out that GMs do either. And that's a pretty sweeping generalisation about male emotional life, too - not all genetic males repress emotion or have issues with anger/aggression/too high sex drive, and neither do all FtMs.
OK, I'm done, or I'm going to pull out the big guns and REALLY let fly - and I don't want to spoil my so far impeccable record on this board by being banned because I have lost any remaining patience with this kind of crap that constantly happens, someone gets slapped, it quiets down for a while and then some other idiot (or sadly far too often the SAME idiot) comes and does the same thing again and again and nobody LEARNS anything or DOES anything about showing the boys any respect. That's exactly why I hardly spend any time here any more, and am considering leaving the board altogether.
/rant
