Provoking question of a GG

**Loveday** · 10-22-2011, 10:23 PM

The female psychologist may of been trying to piggyback the cd/tg community to the idea that some human resource departments feel that females are better at leadership and organizing skills, thus being more successful and making more money. There is a name for the movement but it escapes me at this time. This was breifly discussed one day on some bussiness show I had watched on TV. After working for both genders for many years I personaly do not think gender makes a difference. There is good and bad, smart and dum in both genders. They even had about the same longevity 3 to 7 years as manager before they had to move on.

**NathalieX66** · 10-22-2011, 10:39 PM

The media is already saying that women are surpassing men in college degrees in science & engineering.

I hope it's not true, but I feel like there's this epidemic of the stereotype of the college frat guy with the beer belly & baseball cap on backwards. There just seems to be so many. What's with that?
Anyone who wants to prove me wrong and criticize me is fine with me. I made an effort not to be that shlub a long time ago.
If I sound judgemental, so be it....something's changed these days.

**docrobbysherry** · 10-23-2011, 12:53 AM

C'mon! let's call a spade a, "Spade". Why r there so many NASCAR fans around now compared to 25 years ago? Because all the races r televised!

Why r so many CD/TG's coming out now? Duh! The media and INTERNET! Because of sites like THIS, we now know we're not alone and that other dressers AREN'T all pervs as was previously thot! There aren't MORE now, just MORE OUT!

**Steph.TS** · 10-23-2011, 02:09 AM

my reasons for wanting to transition include social differences, physical differences, the freedom to allow me to express myself (crying and not being belittled, clothes choices that are availalbe to women, makeup etc...) I just want to be one of the girls I have no point as a man. The more I look into this topic the more depressed I get thinking of myself as a man, even on things so basic as chromosomes...

I researched chromosomes and men are far more likely to be colourblind, have hemophilia, and various assortments of chromosomal diseases... Men get breast cancer even though they don't have breasts, but women don't have to worry about getting any male specific cancers. does feminism play it's part in my desire to transition? possibly but it's not going to be what causes me to say that does it I want to be a woman.

**Kate T** · 10-23-2011, 04:38 AM

Originally Posted by Steph.TS

my reasons for wanting to transition include social differences, physical differences, the freedom to allow me to express myself (crying and not being belittled, clothes choices that are availalbe to women, makeup etc...) I just want to be one of the girls I have no point as a man. The more I look into this topic the more depressed I get thinking of myself as a man, even on things so basic as chromosomes...

I researched chromosomes and men are far more likely to be colourblind, have hemophilia, and various assortments of chromosomal diseases... Men get breast cancer even though they don't have breasts, but women don't have to worry about getting any male specific cancers. does feminism play it's part in my desire to transition? possibly but it's not going to be what causes me to say that does it I want to be a woman.

Men don't have to worry about getting cervical cancer, unterine cancer, ovarian cancer. Oh and dying in childbirth!

**Kittyagain** · 10-23-2011, 06:17 AM

One huge factor in all of this is when women went to work, they left their children to be raised by strangers in daycare. We now how several generations raised by daycare. Don't forget in the seventies, the women's group promoted the idea that being a housewife was bad. Housewives got so it was embarrassing to say that is what they did. The common term was when asked what you do, "I am just a housewife."

In the US as Eryn noted is a very bad time to be a white male. So many jobs are either government jobs or related to government contracts which require specified numbers by race and gender. Add to that the promotion of women when they are not qualified to make the numbers look good has really damaged our business structure.

Kitty

**kittypw GG** · 10-23-2011, 06:29 AM

Originally Posted by cassandra54

we can be both men and women, although as a woman we may not make a perfect match in terms of how you were born, mental and emotional makeup.

but one of the things i love about being tg is that i can steal a woman's thunder by walking in her shoes.........literally.

You may think you can be both but statements like this prove you can't ever loose that male ego. Hunny I'll bet you money you ain't stealing nobody's thunder.

**Kate T** · 10-23-2011, 06:48 AM

Originally Posted by Kittyagain

One huge factor in all of this is when women went to work, they left their children to be raised by strangers in daycare. We now how several generations raised by daycare. Don't forget in the seventies, the women's group promoted the idea that being a housewife was bad. Housewives got so it was embarrassing to say that is what they did. The common term was when asked what you do, "I am just a housewife."

In the US as Eryn noted is a very bad time to be a white male. So many jobs are either government jobs or related to government contracts which require specified numbers by race and gender. Add to that the promotion of women when they are not qualified to make the numbers look good has really damaged our business structure.

Kitty

Comes across a bit prejudiced. Racially and Gender. Really I think broad sweeping statements like that are questionable. One could just as easily say that the Banking boardrooms dominated by white males haven't exactly done a bang up job of getting things right have they?(i.e. Global Financial Crisis).

**Steph.TS** · 10-23-2011, 07:26 AM

Originally Posted by Adina

Men don't have to worry about getting cervical cancer, unterine cancer, ovarian cancer. Oh and dying in childbirth!

I know but my point is that men can get cancer for something they don't even have (breasts) but the same cannot be said for women if they don't have something they won't get cancer for it. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think the reason men can get breast cancer is the body developed sufficiently prior to the testosterone wash that breast tissue exists there but left unmatured as esotrogen wasn't the dominate hormone. The breast tissue in men sits there doing practically nothing execpt for the occational cancer (or breast development if a person goes on hormones to transition).

**Beth Wilde** · 10-23-2011, 07:36 AM

Just wanted to add another bizarre theory I heard.... Apparently it's all in the water! I forget where I read it, but apparently, the number of women using the pill means there is a larger amount of female hormones being deposited into the water supply which is not removed by water treatment works. Therefore, people drinking water are taking small amounts of hormones whenever they drink water from the tap!

There are so many theories out there, but personally I'm inclined to believe it is just more open due to the internet. Before such wonderful forums as this one existed, very few people knew more than a couple of others who felt the same way, now with such availability, we all know (or know of) many such people. Newspapers, universities and other research institutes also research online and will obviously see greater prevalence as more sites show up and member numbers continue to increase.

Right, that's my two pence worth, I'm off for a couple of pints of tap water!!

**gabimartini** · 10-23-2011, 08:10 AM

Amazing what some people will say to get that coveted spotlight and enjoy their 140 characters of fame. I don't agree with this psychologist. I was born the way I am, it has nothing to do with being on the winning or losing side.

**kittypw GG** · 10-23-2011, 08:35 AM

Originally Posted by Beth Wilde

Just wanted to add another bizarre theory I heard.... Apparently it's all in the water! I forget where I read it, but apparently, the number of women using the pill means there is a larger amount of female hormones being deposited into the water supply which is not removed by water treatment works. Therefore, people drinking water are taking small amounts of hormones whenever they drink water from the tap!

!!

Actually this theory is not so bizzare. We get hormones from many sources like the food we eat along with lots of chemicals that we don't need to digest. There are people who are reseaching a certain kind of frog because the males are showing up with female organs at an increasingly alarming rate.

**Sometimes Steffi** · 10-23-2011, 08:55 AM

I think that most CDs started when they were very young, say 6 to 12 y.o. This is well before they would had a good understanding of the power structure anywhere except possibly in their home. A bunch of hooey, IMHO.

**adrienner99** · 10-23-2011, 09:49 AM

BS!!! I am not sure the number or the percentage is increasing. It's just easier now to be open about it than it was in 1960..Not that it still isn't hard. But as a male reaction to females gaining more power...that is absurd.

**Dena** · 10-23-2011, 10:38 AM

I'd say it's less of a "secret" than it used to be. There are also more people on the planet than there used to be!

**Badtranny** · 10-23-2011, 11:07 AM

Originally Posted by Aprilrain

what a bunch of BS! Personally I wanted nothing more than for this whole TS thing to go away so I could be "normal" and transition for me so far has done nothing to elevate my social status or income level!

Yeah but what about your new super cute friends?

**Aprilrain** · 10-23-2011, 11:32 AM

Originally Posted by Badtranny

Yeah but what about your new super cute friends?

super cute don't pay the bills be-atch! but you are cute! : P

**suit** · 10-23-2011, 11:55 AM

>"Right, that's my two pence worth, I'm off for a couple of pints of tap water!! "<

go read about the effects of
BPH one of those nice plastic products and what that does to mice!

**Brenda Freeman** · 10-23-2011, 12:59 PM

I guess with her comment/opinion you could argue women have shifted to more masculine to join the masculine crowd, wearing pants, jeans, suits! I think we who love to dress have done so since we figured it out at a young age, with women abandoning all things feminine it will be up to us to keep the feminine fashion alive and kicking for the sake of man or woman or human kind! I agree with everyone who said her comment is looney! What are we to do if women go totally maculine on us will we follow there clothing trend, not a chance, with the help of the internet we are discovering we are far from alone That is empowering!

**Eryn** · 10-23-2011, 02:06 PM

Originally Posted by Adina

Comes across a bit prejudiced. Racially and Gender.

It seems only to be prejudice when it is pointed out that one group is getting the short end of the stick. Any other group and it would be fine.

**Stitch** · 10-23-2011, 03:19 PM

Lol, that is a hilarious load of twaddle if I ever did hear it.

A thought occurs to me.. If you think about it from a sexual point of view, which I believe is a reason a fair few Crossdressers dress. Then if being a woman was considered the stronger role, then why are so many CDers into being dominated? :s

Being a woman isn't all that, and I don't think there is a winning or losing side. Otherwise it implies we are working against each other. Sounds a bit misanthropic to me!

**Kittyagain** · 10-23-2011, 03:30 PM

For most of us, I am convinced, it is something that happened to us in our very early childhood that didn't happen to all men. A coincidence in life you might say. It could be a warm interaction with a woman that was exactly at that moment that we began our formative thought maybe somewhere around 4-5 years old. Could be our first formative thought. I don't think it is something we are born with for the majority.

Kitty

**Vickie_CDTV** · 10-23-2011, 05:18 PM

It isn't a new theory, and perhaps for some there is some truth to it. In fact, Virginia Prince wrote quite a bit about this back in the 60s or 70s, as to what would happen when women hit and surpass parity with men. I am sure there are men who envy the power women have today (as some women envied male power 50+ years ago.) Whether it would manifest itself as transvestism per se, I don't know, but I can see the appeal of wanting to somehow have or feel what they cannot have; either a traditional 50s-esque woman that virtually possible to find today, or to be a modern woman with the societal advantages that come with it.

For what it is worth, as a child I grew up with authority figures that were all women (other than an abusive father), and I am absolutely sure it had an effect on my sexuality later on in life.

**vetobob9** · 10-23-2011, 05:53 PM

Genetically speaking, they have found that the male sex hormone is literally disappearing. This means that the male sex is disappearing. However, the process won't be complete for another million years or so. So we have a long time before we end up in a one sex society. What we are seeing today is only the start of that evolutionary process.

**pinto** · 10-23-2011, 06:16 PM

Does this really mean after some time the world will only be female. All men will disappear?

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