Its been interesting to watch this discussion revolve around in circles. One thing I've observed on this site over the past two years is that whenever a question about gender identity comes up in relation to cross dressing, inevitably the discourse heads off into a debate about labels, defnitions etc.

My guess is that some of us would prefer to define "oureselves" in a certain way, and that leads us to dispute the definitions themselves. Basically, if as a CDr, I don't like the idea of considering myself among the "transgendered", then I'll dispute the idea by disputing or redefining the term. Disputing the definition becomes a denial mechanism.

Its ok, this is a discussion group.