Starr I have read the same things. Another thing I notice on all these commercials, no one smiles in "fat mode" and they normally slouch and wear unflattering clothes. If it's a guy in the pic his hair is usually a mess where in the after pics everybody's happy big smiles, girls with perfect make up, etc.
I saw on the news or read in the paper(a couple of years ago) that the product was being pulled from the market because of potential kidney damage so the liver damage doesn't surprise me.
