There are alot of very open and friendly people in this forum.. kathryn, lea bree..etc...have you read the posts?

To take their contributions and make a stink out of it by saying there is "class warfare", a "hierarchy", and "us vs them" is unproductive and not thoughtful..

For those of you reading this thread, and that are going back forth trying to decide how to best live so you can have the best quality of life, the folks with this chip on your shoulder are highlighting a part of what its going to be like....it doesnt feel very good to not transition if you are ts.... and some honesty about the matter would be helpful..

there are bad apples in every bunch...there are posters that have the attitude that there is an us vs them...none of them posted on this thread ...respond to them!
...don't be pulling my messages or bree's or lea's out and sticking this crap on us...its disrespectful and its bs...

Every single person in this thread is on record here as saying that being ts is a difficult situation. and that to "be ts", there is no reason for you have to do anything...

... the harshest thought expressed here is that lots of people make excuses for not transitioning, and those that have transitioned blew past them....well guess what, what we did!! ...forgive us if any of us take pride that we overcame our fears and issues to transition...in any case, the comments were positive and helpful...

so if you feel you are in the back of the class, its not because you are not transitioning, its because you are not paying attention..
The benjamin standards are a piece of paper,,, i never heard of them until after i transitioned...i don't care about them now....in any case, they don't rank us in order of who is better or worse..

to me if it really bothers you that you are a 4 instead of 5 , then you need to look in the mirror, not at me...

and if it doesnt bother you, whats the problem? and if a couple of big mouths bother you so much that you need to yell at me about it, then again i point you to the mirror..

i would ask you to be more specific and thoughtful about responses to people that are geniunely just trying to keep things honest and productive....