Quote Originally Posted by Traci Elizabeth View Post
I stick to my original post that it is never too late to transition and to have SRS. One member here had her SRS at a late age and the doctor who did her SRS also successfully did SRS on someone who was terminally ill.

I can not think of a better way to go than with being "whole" and congruent.

Which brings me to another point, which I preface as my personal opinion: to be "whole" and congruent as a woman, requires SRS. And as our beloved Kate always proclaims, "women don't have penises".

So (and again to me) if you are not "wanting" SRS then you are not TS!

All right, shoot your arrows now. :bow2:
I'll fire a few nerf arrows.

So to be clear, transwomen who absolutely *can't* have SRS aren't women? Or do they get an exception? Is this something to be documented on a piece of paper or on an arm tatoo? You probably have met a number of transwomen. Do you treat them as women when you meet them or do you ask about their genitals to make sure first? So if a transwoman who has very masculine traits that can't be hidden but has had SRS, would she be a woman? What about a very "passable" (I hate that concept, but I'm using the vernacular) transwoman who has NOT had SRS? What pronouns do you use if another transwoman hasn't had surgery yet? If you were speaking to a third party about an MTF friend you know hasn't had SRS, would you describe her as a man or a woman?

What about transmen? So if they don't have penises, they aren't men? If they do any kind of bottom surgery does that make them a man even though the form and function are often poor? What about people who've lost their penises through trauma? Are they no longer men?

Why does it matter to you (or anyone else) what makes another individual a woman or a man? Does their life have something to do with yours? Does it matter to you if it's a complete stranger or someone you know? Are people who have not have SRS lower in a hierarchy?

You are absolutely entitiled to your opinion, but I'm not sure why you're concerned with how and why others are defined as male or female!