Deliberately "NOT" passing.

[Jamie001]

a man going out in women's clothing and not attempting to pass is making one of the following two statements:

1. I am doing this for a joke. ( and people will joke with you or give you a hard time in that spirit )

or

2. I have anti-social personality disorder or pent-up frustration and resentment and am deliberately seeking to bother people with my presence and seeking negative reactions and you can expect confrontation from me because i am insane and don't know it...best to avoid me like a plague


going out in a kilt - lots of scots & brits do it - but they have an appropriate top garment ( eg blazer ) and socks. You will not get reactions from the kilt with which you can gauge reaction to full-femme.

Edit:

I've thought alot about what you wrote - maybe you feel it's "baby steps" for your coming out
but i think it is baby steps in the wrong direction and you may be too confused to see that doing it
"half-assed" and failing on purpose is worse than trying your best and worrying about passing.

You may be so afraid to fail that you are inclined to go that way to feel safe and not feel rejection
from trying your hardest to look feminine and not succeeding. Maybe you just need some help
from someone who can pick out a good outfit and do you makeup and consult on hair, etc.

i am very insulted by this post!! :brolleyes:

There are some members such as myself that are feminine males and we incorporate feminine items into our everyday presentation. We don't pass, nor do we feel the need to pass. To insinuate that we have some type of personality disorder is downright insulting!!!

We don't often see men who wear skirts, but I quite like the look. I think it looks rather rugged, if it's done right, and if the guy has a lot of self-assurance. I guess the deciding factor is no attempt at having feminine legs, with shoes that are unmistakably male. I've posted pics in many threads, but here are a few more:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_glFJiPFcSv...cobs-skirt.jpg
http://owlposse.com/wp/wp-content/up...tBostonCom.jpg
http://colleenanderson.files.wordpre...03/skirts2.jpg
http://thesocietypages.org/socimages...42a9fdae22.jpg
http://www.northwestcoin.ca/irenat01.jpg
http://www.dividedbytruth.org/images/sissy_in_skirt.jpg

I think these looks would raise a different kind of eyebrow:

http://realmenhavespoken.files.wordp.../menskirt1.jpg
http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...A0XqXx8fAGC-pT
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-jwwhKpc9BN...0/P1030521.JPG
http://images.sodahead.com/polls/000..._3_xlarge.jpeg

The first group portrays men who are not attempting to cross-dress or look feminine, but who are attempting to redefine men's styles. The men in the second group are still presenting as men, but they do cross into the feminine realm with the way they've put their look together. I think that people would be confused by this in a different way than they would be, just seeing some guy who wears something that looks like a kilt.


But, if you live in a conservative area, be prepared to raise eyebrows just the same:
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/talendor/skirt400.jpg

Reine,

The idea is not not look completely male by adding feminine items such as skirts and shoes. Not all men want to look rugged. Where does this notion come from? Some men want the freedom to look both masculine and feminine at the same time! The idea is to break-down barriers regarding what is acceptable for males and females by blending, much like women have done in their incorporation of many male fashion items (see articles in Cosmo and other magazines over the last 10 years).

This is exactly the kind of animosity I was concerned about when joining this forum. I am not a wannabe woman. I'm a guy in a dress (or whatever).
MonctonGirls divisive comments are not helpful. True TVism is neither a joke nor an anti-social personality disorder. The intent is not to annoy people. And frankly, unless you show up in church or some formal situation, you're unlikely to do so any more than the gg dressed as a **** or your typical "people of Wal*Mart attire.

I sympathize and completely agree with you. I am very insulted by MonctonGirls comments. :Angry3: I would like to see the mods delete her insulting post.