Gender Certificate

[Nigella]

Amy, Zoe has it right, just click on the link in my post #16

Name change and title can be changed in a number of ways, however, a deed poll is by far the most common way. Gender markers on a number of documents can be changed as I've posted about, however, the legal change of gender is not complete without a GRC.

Within the UK we are fortunate that to be considered TS, with its protection under the equalities act, we do not have to undergo surgery, and that is reflected in the link.

[Bunny Girl Zoe]

A lease we can change name and gender as can't do that in Thailand so not like be in there shoes. More open with ts but on other hand says can't legally change gender.

[Jennifer Marie P.]

That's one step already.

[Deborah_UK]

Amy, Zoe has it right, just click on the link in my post #16

Name change and title can be changed in a number of ways, however, a deed poll is by far the most common way. Gender markers on a number of documents can be changed as I've posted about, however, the legal change of gender is not complete without a GRC.

Within the UK we are fortunate that to be considered TS, with its protection under the equalities act, we do not have to undergo surgery, and that is reflected in the link.

Nothing really to do with the Equalities Act 2010, because it was enshrined in law under the Gender Recognition Act 2004. One of the reasons that SRS was not a requirement was because of Transmen whose surgery is so much more complicated than for transwomen.

However I do find it hard to reconcile the fact that someone with male genitalia, and only on hormones for seven months can get a GRC while some post op women have had all sorts of problems getting their GRC

I'm not saying its the case here, but the OP could decide hormones and life as a woman is not for her and she could revert to being male, so she could still be legally female but to all intents and purposes, male.

[sandra-leigh]

Deborah, is that a problem, that someone could be legally female but for all intents and purposes, male ? It happens to transmen, and the reverse happens to transwomen all the time (all intents and purposes be female but legally male) ? You aren't going to invoke the bathroom question, are you?

[Deborah_UK]

Sandra - no the bathroom question has nothing to do with this. I guess I hark back to a certain banned poster who would and could not accept a person calling themselves a woman but retaining a penis.

Knowing the issues some transwomen who have been post op for sometime having all sorts of issues getting a GRC I find it hard to reconcile that a person only on hormones for seven months (and only prescribed them some four months ago) seemingly got her GRC after only two years full time (I accept that she fulfilled that part of the requirement) where everyone I know had to undertake the GIC imposed RLE and undertake some form of surgery before the psych would countersign the application.

And its not sour grapes on my part because I can, if I want, apply for my own GRC. I just find it puzzling.

[Nigella]

The Equalities Act supersedes the Gender Recognition Act, as with a number of other acts relating to discrimination and inequalities. They were all combined into the Equalities Act.

Then the issue Deborah is not with the Gender Recognition Panel, but with individual GICs. The panel will only act upon the information/documentation they have presented to them, if the psych at a particular GIC will not counter sign the medical reports, then the individual needs to find out why.

Evidence required by the panel

Under paragraph 11 the Panel should see:
a. the diagnosis,
b. details of when and by whom the diagnosis was made,
c. the principal evidence relied on in making the diagnosis
d. details of the non-surgical (eg hormonal) treatment to date (giving details of medications prescribed, with dates) and an indication of treatment planned, and
e. date of referral for surgery, or, if no referral, the reasons for non- referral.