Quote Originally Posted by JiveTurkeyOnRye View Post
For the sake of this discussion and to prevent it from devolving into an argument, I actually would rather not have it be about how we see others, but rather I'd like people to respond more about how they see themselves. As such I could provide my own personal views on what transgender means, which for me is an umbrella term and I tend to be someone who wants to include rather than exclude, because I think everyone's struggle is a little bit different.
JTOR, this is your response to Allie's post (#2), and I agree with Allie entirely. I don't see the point of a discussion that allows contributors to define, in this case, "transgender" any way they want. Without some agreement on what words mean, there is nothing communicated of any value. I don't see why people move away from words they don't like, even though they are perfectly good words with generally commonly accepted definitions by folks in the word business (Webster, et al).
I see myself as a pineapple, which falls under the transgender umbrella, in my mind anyway, and that's all that matters.