Quote Originally Posted by Jenniferathome View Post
We go out, act normal, Interact with the normals and things will change. There is no acceleration I can imagine.

Again that may be OK for a CD especially a CD who is closeted. You have all the time in the world. So you can wait for things to change. But someone has to initiate that change. The majority of people have no clue that "we" are treated any different than anyone else. And those that do know about TGs but don't "know" a TG get their information from bad movies and TV. Do you , as a member of the T community, remember seeing or hearing about a TG appointee in the US government? Didn't make the daily news in most markets. The trans judge? The trans astronaut? The Trans actress in the highly rated television series...Ah! heard that did you? Did you know that being trans is still grounds for dishonorable discharge from the military? Now for fun, which branch of the US military is considering allowing trans people to serve? Did this all come about by a few people? No it came about by a large voice. But again, the TSs are the ones who HAVE to live with laws and rules that discriminate. In the black community they tried to blend into society in the 50s and 60s and in some areas that was possible but it took a massive push to get it on a national level.

Quote Originally Posted by Katey888 View Post

Lori - your points about equality echo this but what does that mean in real, practical terms? Does it mean legislation?
Yes it will because you cannot trust people do do this on their own. Saying "Hey guys...please let the T's get jobs and use public facilities" won't hack it. You are in Europe. Now I don't know the protection laws in the EU but here in the good Ol USA there are states that don't give any protection to trans people. There are states that give a little. So traveling from..say Colorado to Nebraska (neighbors) I go from being protected to being a target.
For the US does that mean at the federal level (if that was possible)?
Yes and yes it is possible. They passed the Equal Rights amendment 50 years ago that made it a federal crime to discriminate on many levels. However, let me add that it was only a few years ago that the last state allowed interracial marriage. The federal government can put protections in place for at the very least anything that is associated with the federal government (like contracts or hiring)
I can see how it might work for TS but for TG?
and why not? Why would there have to be a delineation? They didn't pass laws for certain ethnic groups but not others.
but the majority still need to agree and be consistent about what that message is!
and therein lies the rub as some famous Brit said once. You see it here when some say "Not me I am not a _____" So it dilutes the power. Or if they say "Hey that doesn't effect me because I'm a guy" (who still have privilege here in the US even if you don't believe it). The civil rights movement swelled because it had support from a broad base of people. Sexual rights and protections weren't just put in place by women (even if they are 52% of the population). Here I see the same sort of thing. So many will scream from the rooftops "I am NOT part of the LGBT community" But you don't HAVE to be, you can still stand up for what is right. Just because your ox isn't gored doesn't mean you can't protect someone else's.

Quoting another great person "We must all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately." Because, as you see, when you start eroding one person's rights, it isn't hard to chip away at others.

Now having stood on the stump, let me say that even a little help is better than none at all. If you want your SO to accept you as you are, you have to do things to prove you are deserving. So if we could get rid of the stigma of being marginalized and ostracized, your SO and family and children and boss would be more likely to see you as a human.