Please allow me to clarify some things.

First, I know men who are so petite that with a wig and some makeup and men's clothes could easily pass and you'd never know it even if they didn't wear forms.
Second, I know two women who are built to resemble football players and dress mostly like men.
Third, I once had an employee who was so gender ambiguous like "Pat" on Saturday Night Live that other employees were playing guessing games until I told them her gender and requested their respect.
Fourth, I have a TS friend who has broad shoulders and large hands who has easily blended into her job without question.
Fifth, I have a friend whose wife has a boy haircut, wears baseball caps and bib overalls, and if you didn't know her you'd think she was a boy. I saw her in a dress once at their wedding.
And sixth, I met a rather large woman who looked like a man wearing a dress until I learned who she was.

I'm speaking from experience and never did I wish to demean anyone in any way. These are just my observations. People come in all shapes and sizes. I just happen to be observant.

What bothers me most in this forum is that I could not express my opinion, relate my observations, and be respected for it even if we agree to disagree.

I'm leaving this sandbox thread now.

Cheryl