Quote Originally Posted by Sammy777 View Post
. . . and lets instead look at the differences in how the subject of clothing is approached by a CD'er vs a TS. Now it has been said many times, by many a TS, myself included, that it is not about the clothes. [TS] women wear women's clothes because they are the clothes women wear, plain and simple. Some of us may dress like "slobs" jeans, t-shirts, ect. Basically the same way some GG women do on a daily basis.
Granted some GG/TS also, for whatever personal/fashion reasons like to dress a bit better then the average girl . . . Comments? Would love to hear them.
Hi Sammy,

I agree in principle with what you are saying but I don't truly believe we can say "if you dress this way or that way" or "if you are more concerned about fashion or not" you are more TS or CD. I do not consider myself TS nor CD as I lie somewhere within the spectrum. I don't think of my clothes as defining who I am but more an necessity to express my gender. So no, I could not put on my guy clothes, no wig, no makeup and proclaim to he world I am expressing my feminine side as it would not be obvious . . . not to mention using the ladies room would more than likely get me arrested. Contrarily, I could not dress "en femme" with makeup and wig and proclaim I am manly as it would be incongruous with the presentation. So the clothes do not define me they just make it easier to express my gender. I like to dress casually when out with my GG friends, much as they do or more dressy should the occasion call for it and I have been known to wear yoga pants, top and flip flops (with minimalistic makeup) out and about while en femme.

On the flip side of the coin, I have plenty of GG friends who live and die by fashion, they think about it, discuss it and live each and every day of their life. Yes, they may not come to a forum like this and discuss details about their outfit or post pictures but they do so in real time . . . because they can. My GG friends have the latitude (societal) to put on an awesome dress with heels and other accoutrements (if they wish) and show up for a luncheon. We will compliment her, ask here where she bought the dress, and validate her choice of style (even if it is not our choice). We might think . . . "A bit over the top for a luncheon" but we would never think she is trying too hard to be a woman. Heck, I have had GG friends show me countless selfies of outfits they have bought. I am not saying all my GG friends do this but some do because their clothing defines them as the woman they wish to be. This is akin to what you see on this forum . . . discussions about outfits, pictures, advice sought . . . all meant to validate a perceived sense of what that person feels defines them as TG. WRT to lingerie, well let's say you are correct in that many do talk about it on this forum but, in fairness, I have had discussions with GGs about their choice of undergarments which would make most sailor blush.

All this to say, I don't think we can put the binary of "you talk way too much about your clothing and undies" so you must be CD as it is not as clear cut as that much like the TG spectrum is not clear cut.

Hugs

Isha