Quote Originally Posted by Sandra View Post
Well seeing as the FtMs left they must have taken it as negative commentary.
If that was the case, they were walking around with blinders on as the original statement was clearly true. As viewed by society in general, women in a flannel shirt and jeans will attract A LOT LESS attention than a man in a dress. Women in flannel shirts and jeans is a frequent occurrence in the general population, regardless of sexuality. Patently not true for men dressed in women's clothes.

Quote Originally Posted by Nadine Spirit View Post
As to there not being many FTMs on this site, I think what Sandra is saying would appear to make sense. There is often much discussion here surrounding how great it is to be a woman, well I have to assume that FTMs don't really agree with much of those thoughts.
It depends, as a function of perspective. I would doubt that folks who consider themselves as F2M are thinking about women in society. I suspect that they are looking at things from their own perspective and where their own sensibilities sit in terms of the gender role that should be theirs. I don't think people are sitting around thinking that they do not want to continue as women based on how they are treated in society at large.

Quote Originally Posted by Alice Torn View Post
Masculinity has been devalued, though. I know, as i am a man.
Largely, we brought this on ourselves. Why did we assume that women had to be kept barefoot and pregnant? Why did we assume that women should not have the vote? Why did we assume that women couldn't run major industrial organizations or governments? Had we taken a more wholistic and inclusive approach, things would have been a lot better. This is how it loops back to male privilege.

Whenever you are in the midst of an unreasonable and unfair situation, there is always the option of deciding not to continue. But, EVERY time when a group has raised their hand and asked for rights and protections that others automatically have, it has ALWAYS been met with resistance; very harsh resistance.