How about this? This thread has come so close and probably violated the no flaming rule so often that I think it has about run its course.
What I am seeing here now is very much "us" vs "Them" on both sides. Specifically I see that one member is catching a lot of flack ( and maybe fanning the flames themselves). As hard as this forum tries to make a sand box big enough for everyone's castle, you all seem to think kicking sand is the right course.
I said it was a yellow card 2 days ago....I am reaching for the red card now. If you all don't want to go to the showers...dial it back. Dividing ourselves into cliques is a normal response but having cat fights isn't needed. Realize that most TS's...pre and post (and even that should not be a division) have in some way trod the path of fetish, fluid and CD. Many CD have wondered about the path to TS and maybe even walked it awhile. If this was so cut and dried it would be easy...yes?
And never ever use the argument "This is Crossdressers.com so TS's should not say anything here." This forum is for all, especially the MtF section. Using Tracis' analogy, this is the lobby. Everyone goes through here. (I don't like the elevator part though as it suggests that there is a rise to get get to a pinnacle...Let's just say there are rooms that have doors to many other rooms on the same floor). Know, this is close to being sent to the ethereal mists of deetedness.