Quote Originally Posted by arbon View Post
Not much difference? Only if you consider transitioned women to be an extension of male cross dressing (basically seeing them as men who cross dress full time) Which is how I feel most on here think of ts women.

We are not even remotely alike, or in this together.
Your comparing men who like to dress in womens cloths to actual women. You feel feminine or like a woman when you put on female clothing. For me being a woman is simply being me. It is not dependent clothing. If I am wearing jeans and shirt and no make up what bathroom do you think I will still use? I'll use the one I belong in, the women's. If your dressed the same way which would you use?

We don't have the same issues.

With bathrooms
Employment
health care
legal issues


Use the bathroom you feel is appropriate for how you are dressed. It does not bother me. But don't say we are in this together and imply we are the same.
I could have quoted a dozen different posts in this thread, but I chose yours arbon, because it was the clearest, and really rubbed me the wrong way.

Some people (in fact many muggles) say that if you're born a man, you'll never be a woman, no matter how many operations you may choose to have. I don't think that a "transitioned woman" to use your words, is a full time crossdresser. But, why can't you even consider that a crossdresser (or at least some crossdressers) would transition if it didn't mean that they might lose their wife, their family, their job and many of their friends.

When I'm out crossdressed, I am doing the best job that I can to emulate a woman. Since I'm 5'9", 150 lbs and wear a size 14 top and size 12 bottoms, in many ways, I'm more passable than the 1 out of 3 GG women who are obese or severely obese. When I'm dressed as a girl, it would be pretty hard to determine if I was "just a CD", bigender or a pre-op or non-op TS, without giving me a psychological test.

So, I've said my piece, clearly, respectfully, and without insults, and I hope if what I said is disagreeable, that the mods just delete my post, and not ban me. My intent is to not post on this thread again, and if anyone wants any clarification, please just PM me.