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You know, I tried to make it as clear as possible that I wasn't referring to ALL WOMEN.
And Zooey, geez, can't you even read the very lines you quoted of me? "Many (but not ALL"
I put that in there specifically to address the fact that it doesn't include everyone. So why are you arguing with me about it?
Besides, we're referring to two different subsets of the population: You're speaking of the people that you have spoken with face to face and people you know; so they know who they're talking to. I'm speaking about those who don't know who they're talking to, so I get to hear what you PROBABLY do not, POSSIBLY because no one wants to offend you, doesn't want to get into an argument with you, or maybe simply does not care to get involved with you. I'm not out; I get to be a fly on the wall and HEAR WHAT YOU DO NOT. And what I hear usually isn't pretty. It's often prejudiced, bigoted, sometimes mean. But it's very real, and apparently way more widespread than you think it is. You don't think so? Just look at the fiasco of the bathroom bills, because there are apparently still a whole lot of people out there that have problems with anyone who doesn't fit their definition of 'normal', and they don't include any of us in that definition.
Zooey; You want them to be called FAB. A little odd, don't you think, seeing as FAB is generally considered short for fabulous, not 'female at birth'; so aren't they going to think asking to be referred to as that is just a little bit pretentious? And if they don't think it is, MOST others, will.
Natal female. Yeah, referring to someone as that, that's going to go over like a lead balloon, just like GG does.
And where do you get off saying that I "call grown-ass women "girls", or "make snide dismissive comments about how we don't look pretty enough anymore, or how "women are basically just men now"? You don't even know me! Stop reading stuff between the lines that isn't there. And no, I don't think it's any more correct that blacks can use the N word and then declare that it's suddenly incorrect for anyone else to use it; some of them even want Koreans to come up with other words to replace nega and niga, which are Korean words that have nothing to do with race at all.
If someone doesn't want a word used in a certain way, then they shouldn't use it that way either. We don't need any double standards.