Campbell Soup Spiderman Commericial

[Teresa]

Krystalina,
Sometimes you have to make it known that the media isn't considering minority groups.

About a year ago the Moneysupermarket ads started running with a guy wearing heels. You would think no harm being done, but I was going through a bad patch with my wife and the last thing she wanted to see was a guy crossdressed in heels doing a provocative dance . The series have moved on through several editions but it is wearing thin now, I began to think about the various parties that may be struggling with TG issues. Parents with children with identity problems, couples like me going through a bad patch ,couples who have separated or divorced, and a husband who has finally decided he's TS.

We do have a voice so I used it and Emailed the Advertising Complaints Commission , I outlined the problem and then questioned the validity of the contents of the ad to the product being sold. I did get a very nice reply back which basically said the ad agency hadn't given it a full enough thought and had failed to contact relevant TG bodies to consult them. They have now done this but decided that the series of ads hadn't contravened any basic rights, and as the majority of the public hadn't raised any complaints no further action would be taken.

After a few weeks I received another Email from the authority that oversees the Ad Agency saying that they felt the decision was borderline and asked me to fill in a full questionnaire, they also asked if I was prepared to be interviewed if necessary. That put me in a spot, I felt strongly about it but was concerned that although my wife didn't like the ads she may not be happy about me voicing an opinion on behalf of the TG community. I decided to still tick yes, they are offering me the right and chance to speak up for others, I may not get the opportunity again, the minority shouldn't silently always have to give in to the majority.

[Alice Torn]

Women who are attractive do not need to make big bucks. They attract many suitors simply because of beauty/

[Lana Mae]

It is a soup ad. Designed to sell soup. That is all. Hugs Lana Mae

[ellbee]

Reine,

Yep, just keep deferring to the "experts" & "authorities" for everything. Because they know better. Your real-world experiences & observations mean absolutely nothing -- they are insignificant, not real, obviously incorrect, and have no relevancy or impact on your everyday life.


And when those same entities tell you that the sky is actually green, and not blue, you better darn believe them, contrary to what your own eyes see. Simply accept, defer & make sure you regurgitate the BS.


You're right about one thing, anyway: It's pointless debating this.



Mods: Sorry for the OT tangent. I'm done, I swear! :D

[char GG]

Personally, I take everything on TV, especially commercials, with a grain of salt. In my opinion, there is not much on TV worth watching. Most of it is mind numbing junk. I wouldn't worry about some dumb commercial and I would not make a big deal out of it. It's not relevant.

[ReineD]

I heard it discussed on a talk show, and magazines, and i was personlly rejected for a full time state highway dept job, because i was male, despite my score was much higher than the female who was hired.

I’m sorry you got passed up for the job, Alice. It happened to me as well except in my case, they hired a younger male. I don’t think they made their choice due to a gender preference though. In my case, I think it was age.

But again, these are all individual experiences. When both men and women apply for jobs, only one gets it which results in the others losing out … and sometimes men lose out while at other times women lose out.

In this thread I initially suggested that the Campbell’s ad was motivated with the historical perspective of men having held positions of power by virtue of generally having been the sole income earners (as recently as the 1960s), and that although women have been catching up since the 1970s, they still have a ways to go. I cited the wage gap as one of the ways that women still lag, and also the predominance of men in the STEM (science, technology, engineering, math) fields.

When challenged on the wage gap (by people who did not provide any evidence to the contrary), I backed up my statement with statistics from the Pew Research Center and the Bureau of Labor Statistics. The BLS gathers source data directly from employers across the country and they report on their findings. There’s a link to a BLS report in my post #44 (the second link), that shows a breakdown of wages earned by both men and women in hundreds of different occupations (see pages 9 to 23 of the report). You can look at each occupation to see for yourself whether men or women make more money in those fields.

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So Alice, I’m afraid that the wage data accumulated within each sector is not an "opinion" that someone can either agree or disagree on. It is simply source data provided by employers across the country for the purpose of analyzing trends like unemployment, poverty, family and household income, etc.


… unless the whole thing is a hoax and these pages and pages of data, "supposedly" provided by employers, are instead all fictitious numbers pulled from the air just to get this forum’s members ticked off. :p

[dolovewell]

Personally, I take everything on TV, especially commercials, with a grain of salt. In my opinion, there is not much on TV worth watching. Most of it is mind numbing junk. I wouldn't worry about some dumb commercial and I would not make a big deal out of it. It's not relevant.

I work in the TV industry and I even agree 100%. All media exists to push narratives and shape public opinion. Not entertain or report news.

[Lorileah]

I am sure we all agree that everyone should get equal pay for equal work without any other things interfering. So now that THAT is settled, stick with the OP. Thanks