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    Laura, I'll take the time to read the wiki article to see if what they say fundamentally differs with Lisa Eliot and get back to you. You might want to read it in detail too, and also watch the video fully, so we can make comparisons.

    Becky, in your article Mosley says that his own daughter defies the point he is making! Still, it's an advertisement for a weekly show that presumably hasn't aired yet? And who knows, they may well come to the same conclusions as Lisa Eliot.

    If you will listen to the second video I posted (Lisa Eliot), you will see that there are indeed some differences between male and female brains, but the differences are insignificant compared to all the overlaps. All the things that form personality have been measured to be close in males and females.

    ... or am I talking to the wind. lol. Is anyone actually bothering to look at the details, or are people arguing in favor of what they want to argue about without any analysis of the details. :p

    Quote Originally Posted by Curiouser&Curiouser View Post
    Reine,

    There's no question the group was primarily trans, both male and female, as well as a few cisgendered folks. Emotionally, it was irrelevant what gender they were though - they felt like women to me and with little exception I had no trouble accepting them as such. So when I was treated as a normal person, while presenting fem, I experienced something I enjoyed and I would attribute to being a woman.
    I don't blame you for feeling wonderful when you're accepted, if you've felt all your life you wouldn't be. If being accepted as a woman while you present as one, makes you feel you are one, then I'm glad for you, although our definitions of "woman" might differ. Is this who you feel you are inside all the time, and the acceptance of your presentation is validation for who you feel you are?

    I don't know if you are transitioning or not, but to me it's a permanent thing, not something to switch in and out of. When people don't transition, the choice is to effectively live as male. I hope you won't take this the wrong way. When someone switches in and out of womanhood by choice, I should think this calls for a different definition. I won't presume to supply one here because I don't know where you are with all of this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Curiouser&Curiouser View Post
    But it does seem that there is room for me to feel like a woman in an esoteric sense, while understanding very little of how hard you've had to fight for your place or the world you've had to live in.
    I think if you had outings other than the trans group, you'd see that people will not treat you badly. Most people are polite and if they know, they don't let on. And I've not had to fight for my place in the world. I always just took it, unaware that men thought me "less than", even if they did.
    Last edited by ReineD; 11-22-2016 at 02:55 AM.
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