Firstly apologies to Nicole not wanting to derail your thread, but Sandin, I have no idea what you mean? I was relating a real conversation that was going on with a bunch of my friends, all great guys one on one, but when they are together it is as they say here a 'pissing contest' I put it down to insecurity. I have no need to show off to my friends with my next car or whatever, as i feel very secure in who i am. I drifted off and let myself enjoy memories of my first time out.