Quote Originally Posted by ReineD View Post
Likely what I’m about to say does not apply to many of the people in this forum, but I do see how the #metoo movement will NOT help some TGs. I refer to the type of TG who behaves (or dresses) as if he or she wants to be objectified. I refer to the TGs who have said in many posts here throughout the years they want to be dominated by men or they want to be subservient or submissive to men. I don’t know if these were idle fantasies not acted upon, but if it is a TG’s deep or secret desire to be submissive in any way, the desire can’t help but come to the surface if only in the manner of dress and/or behavior - if not at places like the mall, but at TG clubs or other places where men who admire TGS congregate and possibly also where there are GG onlookers who witness the behaviors … and we all know that the behaviors of the few do influence how the many are seen. Sometimes all it takes is seeing a picture of a CDer or a drag queen dressed in a mini-skirt, stilettos, big hair, big boobs, etc, to have everyone in this community lumped into the same boat.

The whole point of #metoo is to give the world a sense of the magnitude of the problem but more importantly, to signal that women have had enough of being treated like some object placed on earth merely for men’s pleasure or men’s need to exert power over women. But, if some TGs are seen as purposely seeking dominant behavior from men, it could have an adverse affect in the eyes of the GGs who witness this. They are likely to think of the TG, "You are not one of us. You seek the type of treatment we are rallying against". It could also continue to give the men who admire TGs a message that is diametrically opposed to what #metoo is all about.

I also agree with Charlotte7. Most men that regular GGs deal with are not in positions of power like the Weinsteins of the world, they therefore do not have extreme power to abuse, and so we do not believe that most men in our lives are predators. Not even most of our male bosses, since most bosses can get fired for behaving the way that men in extreme power or moneyed positions can behave. And since many members here are seen as men by the women in their lives (their wives, sisters, daughters, etc in addition to possibly the SAs or waitresses when they go out dressed), I'm sure they are not seen as sexual predators in the same way as some of the men who have behaved sexually inappropriately.

I participated in the #metoo responses in social media and this was because, of the hundreds upon hundreds of men I have dealt with throughout my life, there were only three who behaved sexually inappropriately. All three when I was under 25. Saying "me too" does not mean that I and women like me believe that all men are like that. In my case, by the time I was 25 I had learned how to quickly stop men in their tracks if they began to behave in a manner that I found objectionable. I was never treated poorly by men who were in authoritative positions (my bosses, professors, etc).
I would 1st like to give a standing ovation to this entire post Reine. Spot on with every single word. My thoughts are in many ways very similar to all which you have written. From my perch, I mostly am in agreement with the #metoo movement. What I fear of it though is precisely what came about it from the calling the police upon a hug. the metoo movement I certainly hope is not and has not ever been designed for such a manner. It is about having and giving respect for women and people in general and not treating anyone in a sexual manner dis respectively and worse. To me there is nothing sexual about a hug.

There was a movie made starring Sylvestor Stallone called demolition man (also starring Sandra Bullock) set in the future where all physical contact had become illegal. I am truly hoping the #metoo movement doesn't lead us down such a path and when I see or hear of such a thing as someone being arrested for a hug, well that's pretty damn scary right there.

I think you are so completely accurate about how men of such influence wealth and power abuse women sexually, and that while it is seemingly everyone being outed for their behavior, in reality it is still a very small percentage. That percentage will grow, as it should, but in the end, that percentage will still be a small minority of men, both influential and not who will be guilty, truly guilty of sexual abuse or serious dis respectable behavior. Other women now will be able to do as you have, and be better able to deal with those who do, will not feel so helpless or powerless to stop it. And hopefully we will all be better for it, without having to sacrifice basic human behavior which we thrive upon and need for our well being.