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    I am going to play the devils advocate here. This will not apply to some of you:
    We will resent you for trying to come into our world in a male form “pretending” to be a woman.
    You haven’t paid your dues into the Club of Women, the lottery failed to award you a vigina at birth. Sure you have lived with your struggle, shame, and desire to be a woman but you will never know or come even close to knowing what it is to be a woman, no more than I, with my background, could ever possible know what it is to be a male. How can you claim to embrace something you are not and never will be? We take exception to you trying to cross the line into our world. We dislike you for getting to call yourself a woman without having known the hardships (physically, biologically, and emotionally). We hate that you got the ‘easy’ pass to being a woman. We are a territorial bunch, but then if you were a woman you’d know that ;-)
    You know, maybe we have paid our dues to be women more than some women. A gay friend pointed out to me that gay folk who want to be parents must go to greater lengths whereas many straight folk become parents by drunken accidents so the gay parents have much more earned being parents.
    In much the same way TGs of whatever sort face a level of discrimination that the last couple of generations of women have been substantially free of. We have suffered mentally, emotionally and often physically to be women. As a group our dues have been paid with the blood of suicide and murder victims.. thousands of them. Have we paid greater dues than a woman born into that state by accident?

    And as for us not knowing what a woman is.. Well for starters we are born with an x chromosome (and please no pseudoscience about intelligence on the x, it's rot. So far there is little evidence that individual intelligence is genetically determined at all). Beyond that we are surrounded by women.. 52% of people in most western countries are female. More importantly, as stated on the Australian tv program Insight during a discussion on a book written about the difference between male and female brains two neuroscientists pointed out that the variance between male and female brains on average was substantially less than the differance between any two men or any two women. They said that biologically, rather than culturally, there is very little differance at all between men and women.

    Male or female then is mostly merely a matter of social indoctrination, position and role.

    When I see the mental illnesses, the suicides, the hate crime violence, the discrimination etc I do not see an 'easy pass' to being a women. I see human beings trying to express part of themselves that is feared, hated, despised and taboo but who have no choice but to be themselves.

    I don't see a victim and a villain here, I see two victims and a villain.. the victims are the TG who has had to suffer to be and to accept who they are because the world has told them it is wrong and the SO who suffers too because the world never told them the fantasy groom they were taught to crave might behave in this way.
    The villain? The lies told in childhood social conditioning. The solution? Fighting against the arbitrary oppresive and evil rules of society.
    Last edited by battybattybats; 09-03-2007 at 07:59 PM. Reason: punctuation

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