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Wow!!! what a thread;
I have read most, and I guess I am one of the few that when either male, or CD mode,
I go for a real Female. The thought of having a sexual relationship with another man
just turns my stomach. I love girls, and if I had transitions to a girl I guess I would be a lesbian.
I am one of the few who just like wearing girl clothes, very much in the closet, And happy that
my wife is OK with my dressing.
Rader
i think i could pretty much agree with a million of these posts, but this one seems to get me...when i'm in a relationship, i don't think about it. I still only lust after women, but more and more I'm interested in playing with a guy as kristaQuote:
Originally Posted by laura.lapinski
Such an interesting thread. As for me, I've always been attracted to women and for the most part find men repulsive. However, I've fantasized about being with a guy and having sex with him while being en femme. I don't fantasize about a relationship and love and that. I just have a fantasy about having sex with a guy, and knowing how it feels to be penetrated by a real person (as oppposed to a toy). I want to know how it feels to be pampered, to wear the sexiest lingerie and to be told how sexy I look, have him do things to me and me doing things to him while unleashing my feminine side.
I don't know where would that lead, in terms of sexual identity. Right now, I consider myself a heterosexual that just wants to know what it feels like to have somebody inside of me. It may change my views in the future, or it may not.
I am replying to your question without reading the other responses.Quote:
Originally Posted by toni_62
Guy on guy sex does absolutely nothing for me. But, like you, that body part interests me as well. I intend to make myself look and feel as feminine as possible then experience sex as a woman. I may really like it. Who knows?
Toni, I totally know how you feel, I too have started being a more 'serious' tgirl after years of dressing on and off and I know what the feeling is like to want to be with a man to 'complete' the deal. guy on guy stuff doesnt do it for my unless one is dressed and one can totally be me. I dont know quite what to do with it, I only feel that way dressed. I would consider myself bi and being single lets me explore everything out there. I know I am attracted to other tgirls primarily but I find myself more interested in men when dressed. For me, it is important to have a connection with the person, when I have kissed men(twice only) and women it has been icky if there hasnt been that connection. But it is the person not the gender, for sure, that does it for me. but it is a little confusing, being attracted to a body part in one context but not another.
I am one who will look at a man and notice if he is handsome or not, and may even develop a crush on one every once and a while (my neighbor is a stud, though). At the same time, when I look at girls, especially very pretty girls, I am more into their outfits and want to be them. I have been with guys. And at this time, I would have to consider myself more gay than bi. But there are a few girls every so often I do desire sexually.
I sometimes think about being with a man when dressed but it is more an expression of completing my femininity than anything else. I have fantasized about going on a date with a man or being seduced by a man or having a man buy me a drink in a bar but again I think it is because it would mean the illusion or transformation was complete. My fantasies about men when dressed are much more romantic than my sexual fantasies about women. So yea I am sometimes attracted to men when en femme but not really sure what it means.-
Men frighten me when I am a girl.
Is it just some men and the way they present themselves and or act?
To me, some men give off a scary vibe and others, well... *grin*
I have noticed that the more I open up, the more I've started to notice men and check them out.
:)
Men are now a priority in my life, especially if they dress enfemme,or are open to the subject
While I am hetro I do enjoy when men treat me as if I am a woman. Gentlemen opening a door for a lady etc. Been out on dates with men. Though only when I am in the company of my wife or another CD. Several times men have tried to put their hands up my skirt. That is both enjoyable or frightening But in general I hate men. Most of my women friends are lesbians
Ill keep this clean and short. But I fully understand your feelings. Except for me when I dress I have the need to be with another person that is dressed. I have no attraction to regular males though. I know I am bi so does that make any sense?
Hey Toni,
Before I started dressing, I was crazy about girls, and never thought about boys in the same way. After I started, it was a few years until I started getting curious about what it would be like to be with a guy. I only thought that way when I was dressed though. When it did happen, it was awkward but I got into it all the way to see if I would like it. I did, but I never lost the desire for girls. I realized I wasn't attracted to the male form, but was mostly attracted to being on the "other end" of the sexual experience, almost as if living a "double life". After getting married, I still dressed but didn't stray with man or woman. It wasn't until my wife discovered by secret and left that I re-lived the experience. It held the same attraction as before. I still prefer women, but I have re-visited the other side on occasion and admit I've enjoyed it. I avoid getting to close to women now, just because I don't want to go through what has happened, and I don't ever want to hurt another one or myself like that again.
Gina, I've never been with another man yet, but I imagine afterwards I would feel as you do. It has to be either me or him dressed in fem though to start with.Quote:
Originally Posted by GinaD
I feel the same way after A failed marriage and several relationships with women I gave them up and only date men now, I still love woman but with my past I do not think I will ever be in A relationship with one again. I have been with men while dressed and also not dressed. (I preferred being dressed) I love being the receiver either way :doll:Quote:
Originally Posted by GinaD
I enjoy the attraction, but only when dressed.....or wishing I was dressed. ;)
I am more deeply attracted to other CDs than to guys, however, and I can be with a CD (or TS) whether I'm dressed or not, so long as they ARE dressed.
Hey Laura.
Yeah, it is a big step. It is easier if you take the time to know the first man you are going to be with. I knew the person I was with the first time for over a year. We were good friends before anything happened. Even now, I take my time getting to know someone first to get a vibe about them. I have no time for idiots and will not stand to be disrespected in the least. Any man who wants more than friendship from me has to prove he is kind and gentle and safe.
This is a tough one.
I have been with a man while in totally male drab mode because my wife wanted to see that, but while it was happening I could only accept it by imagining that I was full on female at the time.
I think there is some desire to be physically aligned with our desired gender role. I cannot imagine a more powerful way to express one's own femininity than by attracting and being with a member of the opposite sex. Perhaps our mixed up brains can't envision that happening in male mode. In other words, it is possible that the female side of our brains cannot relate to a male being with a male, so instead of wanting to be with women sexually, it works the other way around?
Maybe we don't feel we can attract in male mode? Maybe there is a huge payback to the female self in knowing we have the power to attract male attention?
I will think about this one more as I drift off to sleep tonight. Thank you for the interesting question!
Meghan
I can relate to this topic. I know for me I didn't have any attraction towards men at all growing up while crossdressing and I still don't. When I am out I don't check out men (if I do it is for style reasons), I always look at women because they are so hot (sometimes for style reasons too). What has evolved is that I slowly began thinking about men and fantasizing what it would be like to be with one. This totally scared me at first and well, it still does somewhat. I think as I dressed more I wanted to experience more feminine things and going out with or being with a hot guy would be the ultimate feminine experience. I agree with some posts above. I question whether I am attracted to men or is it an attraction to feeling the ultimate sensation as a woman by being with a man and so I flip flop between the two. Maybe it is just the idea only. That is what I am trying to figure out in addition to so many other crossdressing things!
When I dress now (which hasn't been much) I almost always think of going out with a man and being with one while dressed. Maybe I am bi-curious, I don't know. I would definitely need to be dressed up to get to that point though. I had or maybe still have a chance to pursue a good friend of mine (another potential post) and if given the chance I think I would put myself in the situation to see if I would want to be with him or if I would pull away in reality. My worry is how does one feel after being with a man? Guilty? Depressed? Or does it open the door to wanting to date men. So many questions! What a post!!!
Victoriana
I am that way too. Fantasies of random, faceless sex are fine, but in real life it's more comfortable to know the person well first. It's a deeper connection and you can really open up and trust each other and share with more connection.Quote:
Originally Posted by GinaD
Hi great thread, I must admit that most of my sexual fantasies are of me as a woman with a man. The porn I like is mostly older woman with young men, of course I fantasy about me being the older woman. I am, I guess happily married to the same woman for over 30 years. She knows about “Ruth” but doesn’t approve at all. She has always been a beautiful girl and has always attracted the attention of men, but she is a good girl and as far as I know has been true to me. She has teased me about us having a threesome with another guy (which I previously posted here) but that was all it was a tease. I have worn lingerie with her and she has taken the dominant role, even wearing a toy. Fun but not the real thing.
What I don’t understand about how some of the girls ideas about sexual feelings. I mean we take so much time to present a feminine image, the more feminine and girly the better. For me the urge to consummate that feeling of being a woman is over whelming. How better than being with a man as only a real woman can be. And yet I do not find men sexually appealing when not dressed very weird.
I'm going to recommend again that some of you check out some *ahem* material of men by themselves.
Not two guys, not a guy with whatever else - just one man.
Pictures, movies, whatever it doesn't matter.
Do this in male mode and see how you feel, try and relax and open up.
If you're straight you probably won't get any reaction at all, but if you start feeling some reaction then that opens up further possibilities.
This may or may not help you, but for me it was a way to remove the noise and see what exactly was going on.
Are you attracted to the man himself and all that comes with him, or do you just want his penis?
Turned out for me that I was attracted to the whole package (lol) but it took a lot of opening up and breaking down walls to admit it.
So just look at half/naked men (without fap fap fap) and see what reaction you get.
In fact, half-naked is even better since it removes the penis from the equation.
I believe I like men but I'm not 100% sure yet. As I've thought about it through the years, I've realized I must have always liked men. I tried to be a man all my life but have never denied to myself the love I have for all things feminine. I finally realized that while I consciously admired ladies' fashions, I looked at men entirely differently; I thought they were hunks, cute, etc. Looking at hunks now gets me excited and I cannot "perform" in bed with my wife unless I imagine that I am the oh so passive woman and she is the hunky man. If I don't do that, nothing happens for me; it's gotten so bad that she thinks I need to see a doctor. I just haven't had the courage to tell her that I don't need a doctor...unless he is the hunk in bed about to ravage me! :-)
Wow, this is a really informative thread. ReineD's comment early on really struck a tone with me. I've never really been attracted to men, and the serious thought of sex as a man is a serious turn off. But when I'm dressed as a woman, I want to explore and do things a woman might do. I once gave a lap dance to a GG who wanted to try something new. Her and I both enjoyed the experience, and I learned that giving a lap dance in 4 inch heels is much harder than it looks! Sometimes I even fantasize about guys, but I've never actively acted on it, or even sought out an experience with a guy. Well, there was one time in a bar where I found myself heavily flirting with a guy I just met. Nevermind that both of our SO's were also there. I didn't realize it at first, but I think I was just genuinely attracted to his personality in a weird kinda way. Or some nuerons got crossed or something. :)
I am still trying to figure this whole thing out. If you get excited by the thought of a man or lets say just liking men as a whole is that any indication that you may be bisexual...who knows. I know I get excited thinking of being a woman for a man and to me it is not just the penis that gets me going when I fantasize. Men!!! Ahhh. You know...I have no idea...to be continued. :P
I've never been attracted to men, even when dressed. I love women and everything about them. That said, I am also very attracted to crossdressers....I do like that "one part" and often fantasize about being with another cd. I suppose this makes me bi and am totally ok with that. I could be with a cd while I'm dressed or in guy mode, although both of us dressed is much more appealing.
Hi Toni,
Thank you for sharing. I have read a number of posts about this and I, too, feel similar to what you describe.
I am not attracted to men either; I am actually turned off by most men. However the male parts I do enjoy.
I also took the time to explore my sexuality with a male in my 20's ( I am 58 now), and I found it far too mechanical. I really just wanted the male parts and would have loved to have a woman there to cuddle afterwards.
I have tried to encorporate this fantasy into my life with GG's and it does work if the partner is acccepting. The problem is that they have found these fantasies tiresome after awhile, and most just believed I was at least bisexual and wanted men in real life, which was partially true. I wanted part of the man.
I am separated now and I don't know if I will have a S.O. again. I belong to an older generation who are not nearly as accepting or open, making it all very complicated and confusing issue at my age.
I do think it is a very helpful to discuss and explore this complex subject.
Sometimes we might just have a lightbulb turn on.
Monica
I think for me it is the penis itself. I don't like men's bodies at all except that one part. And that's only when stephanie is around. We get around that somewhat with toys and stuff.
Hugs
Stephanie
Wow, This is a great thread, I have never been with a male yet but thats not to say that someday I won,t be. I know when I,m dressed as a femne and standing next to a guy sometimes I get these strange feelings. I think if I was in the right place at the right time I might want to try to be the girl I really feel like with the right guy.
I am attracted to men the whole package. I am always checking them out. But I am picky and and only
date men after I get to know them very well. To many crazy things going on these days you have to be carefull.
I like woman but as friends only.
I am attracted to women strongly but have fantasized about being out dressed to the nines and being hit on by guys. BTW I will be 55 in less than two months. Billie Jean
I consider myself 100% heterosexual, happily married, and am not the least bit attracted to men.
However, ONLY when dressed, do I fantasize about what it would be like to be treated like a woman by another man, or at least by another crossdresser. I have no attraction to men, but to experience the feeling of being desired is one I have daydreamed about many times. I imagine being treated exactly as I would treat a woman, slowly and sensually being touched in various places, all while wearing a sexy outfit.
Like others have said, touching a man's penis while dressed as a woman is a curious fantasy, but in real life there's a 99.9% chance I wouldn't go for it. Maybe 99.8%. <wink>
Attractive men are lovely regardless of who I present as. Being hit on is flattering.....
Hi Toni... it totally resonates with me. In guy mode I am not gay. As a teenager I questioned this and it was obvious to me that this was not 'my bag'... but we do develop as we get older. I had another gay experience a decade or so later - it appeased something in my head but did nothing for me. I was not moved to repeat it. It was as you said, mechanical? Going through the motions?
But when I am in Kaz mode... what do I mean by that.. pink fog? Just me 'being' her... yeah I have the most erotic fantasies you can imagine. I don't have to be 'dressed' either, just in that mindset. But the reality is.. I see a guy...no interest... I see women.. just amazing! And I have no desire to leave my wife other than to be able to dress openly around the house.
Call me weird? Yeah... I am a CD! Just like you and thousand of others! Isn't it a strange exploration of who we are? I want to feel like a woman not just look like one - and for all the GGs... that includes all the crap! But sadly I never will...
Have you ever thought about a relationship with another crossdresser--you would have the pleasure of kissing and carressing someone feminine but with that "extra" part that you want.Quote:
Originally Posted by toni_62
I have always found I am attracted to people as a person first then as a sexual partner. I guess all those gender tests that say I am androgynous really do mean something. Sex is just not a big motivator for me.
hugs rita
When I am "dressed" I feel a strong sexual attraction to men, although I find women equally as interesting. I often fantasize about what it would be like to be with a guy and some day (probably sooner than later) I want to try that. For me, I think taking that step will bring fulfillment to me as a woman. I'm single, but a I have a unique lady friend who is bi, but tending towards her lesbian side, we have alot of fun together. I'm really thinking seriously about dating a TS, I have met several recently and I find them fascinating. I hope this isn't too risque, but I really enjoy this kind of conversation.
My wife is the one who wants to explore the role playing, although, we haven’t done anything yet I do enjoy the build-up to the climax (no pun intended). For example, she will talk ‘dirty’ to me about being all dressed and having some guy run his hand up under my skirt, then she asks me “what will you do?” She always presents scenarios then she wants me to tell her what I will do to him, her or them. Needless to say this a huge (pun intended) turn-on for both of us. If something is to happen I think we have both decided that it should be with another CD that way it’s just us girls. Even if nothing happens our verbal descriptions are truly amazing. LP
I forgot to mention in my earlier post that I would love to date/spend time with another CD when we are both "en femme". Over new years weekend I have been invited to a couple of "special" parties which I am very much looking forward to. One in particular is for CD's and TS girls. Other than the opportunity to go out fully dressed, I am quite certain I am going to meet some new people and make some interesting friends.
As mentioned here previously, some 30years ago I was seduced into a man on man intimacy.While he seemed to like it, I was rather indifferent to the whole thing. Recognize an attractive man when I see one, mostly my thoughts are I bet he doesn't have to work for it like most men do. Very attracted to the Cders portrayed here and never have been with one. Married 30 years and love my wife immensly, enjoy the fantasy but not sure if single would I indulge.
Men? I am attracted to handsome polite men very much. I am not attracted to other girls in a sexual way. Only for friendship there. I have been with both men and women, but now I prefer to date and see men exclusively. But the man has to be nice, sincere, safe, and polite. I guess that is why men I date are my age or older, I dont really click with young guys.
Hugs
Danielle
The aspects of a woman that I most want to emulate--smooth, hairless clear skin, shapely legs, a narrow waist, and breasts--are precisely the physical attributes men lack. The clothing a woman can wear--especially sheer hose, high heels, skirts, dresses and other lingerie--are what I find most attractive. Therefore there is nothing traditionally "manly" that I think is sexy--though I try to look that way for my wife when not wearing hose or heels around her in private. I'd never find a man attractive. I suppose a very passable TS would be an interesting experience, though.
I have recently come out, and dress feminine publicly, with no need to pass. I have publicly declared myself as gender fluid, and I with that declaration about two months ago, my attractions have changed. I am still primarily attracted to GG or other folks with the same downstairs equipment, but the type of women I am attracted to is changing. I think I used to be attracted to very feminine women who I wanted to be like. Now I am finding myself attracted to GG with a blending of gender characteristics like me, who have more to give me and can lead sometimes.
toni,
you have, like me, found your inner-self. i, for many years, thought i was hetrosexual but then i met a man that turned me on and we had sex. it was wonderful. if i was 40 years younger, i would have had SRS and be living as a woman that i am.
just enjoy.....
hugs,
geri
It is very simple for me. Eric is a stright man and Samantha is a stright woman.
Many good points made here, on which I would like to add a comment. Like most things in this life, it depends on how hard you want to work at something, how much desire you have, how committed you are. When I gave in to my feminine side a few years ago, I decided to fully explore it. To that end, I started tailoring my workout routine to develop a more ladylike form. Simply put, I work on shaping my legs and butt, flattening my tummy and so on. Along with that I started using various creams and lotions (all natural) and a massage regimen to develop my breasts, with which I have had some measure of success. I changed my hair style such that I can easily wear it as either a male or female. Notwithstanding, I do have a closet full of wigs which I also enjoy........depending on my mood.
After about a year, I started doing full body shaves and basically threw away all my male undergarments except for a precious few for going to the MD and so on. I started wearing panties every day and not long thereafter bras and pantyhose. While I wear male outer clothes during the work day, I am fully dressed as a woman underneath. After work and on the weekend, I dress and live, exclusively as a woman.
I have thought seriously about SRS, but quite honestly, I am (almost) happy where I am today, in that I can enjoy the best of both worlds. The one thing that bothers me the most is that I really want to live my life full time as a woman, that is to say being able to go to work dressed as such. I am always so envious of female co-workers who can wear pretty skirts and dresses, heels and hose. That's the place I want to get to.
I have had quite a bit of success in my "transition", I am very passable, save and except for my voice being a little too deep. I practice voice lessons all the time and things are getting better. I am comfortable going out in public dressed as a woman except for that.
I am attracted to both men and women and very fluid and open minded in my orientation. CD's and TS individuals are of special interest to me, I think it is sweet and sexy to be en femme with another CD.
I really hope this little iteration helps other women in this forum.
Mellissa, It makes perfect sense to me. I really have no attraction to men, but I am very attracted to anouther dresser. I guess I really like the surprise under the skirt.
Danni
i hated the thought of ever being with a man, but loneliness and depression makes you do things you normally you would'nt do....
over time especially when i'm dressed as Angela and i'm out dancing, I love the attention of a gorgous guy (but only if hes good looking). its a great moment when someone says your beautiful and he asks you for a dance. i've never refused.
but i am fussy!!! i dont love men on a whole, cause hairy chests and moustaches/beards put me off!!! i like shaven men.
its strange. i still dont consider myself bi. i guess i not only dress like a woman, but i think and feel like a woman, and some men, i just happen to like.
i have'nt had sex with a woman in 6 years, the last few times have been with a man or another cd.
Well, I guess it's a bit different for me, but it still applies. I'm bisexual, with a preference for men. But that's regardless of crossdressing habits. But I have a lovely girlfriend, so I'm not going to be with any man! I did have a boyfriend in the past, though.