Hi Bats-

I was going to send this as a personal communication, but then decided to just go ahead and post it on the forum. First of all, I don't think anyone disagrees with your formal argumentation, an "if" hypothesis or proposition followed by a "then" conclusion. Your basic if A, then B argument. Of course the heat that follows is from the fact that what we're discussing, being TG/TS/CD, is an issue with such deep seated emotional and personal aspects that factors into it, that it's nearly impossible to discuss it in a "logical" manner.

Yes, perhaps it might be nice if we could (which is not to say it's not possible), but for all of us, especially for our spouses it touches on such deep and personal wells of love and acceptance and commitment that it's nearly impossible to keep emotion out of it. That, to me, at least, is why there has been so much deep and truly felt exception to what you may have felt was merely an idea tossed out simply for consideration. And, yes, I do agree, ad hominem arguments, attacks against you as a person, were wrong. Personally, as I have said before, I kind of like you and the way you think and certainly don't think you don't appreciate all the things the g-girls who are here on this site do for all of us.

Hugs...Joni Mari