All of the above that the other boys have said - I have had the "why on earth would you want to become a man, you were such a pretty girl!" from across the board (family and non-family); I constantly get "you will never be a man" (usually with "...because you will never have a penis" tacked on the end) and the whole condescending/patronising attitude of "aww, how cute, look at you trying so hard to be a man".

Also the "you're not a real man" thing, and people who despite being able to identify me as male by the way I look, insist on pointing out all the "less than male" characteristics they think I have (such as being compassionate or considerate, and pretty much anything that doesn't fit the "men are all ignorant, inconsiderate boofheads" stereotype). Never mind that cisgendered people cross these stereotypical boundaries every day, but people don't even NOTICE it, BECAUSE they are cisgendered.

Like 4serrus I have also encountered a lot of lesbians and feminists who have called me a traitor and basically abused me for "switching camps" or "betraying my gender". I have also been told that because I am a man, I CAN'T be a feminist o.O

As for Hemingway and Kipling....I think to some extent even they are buying into the stereotypes of what makes a man. My biggest role model for the kind of man I want to be is John Butler (the musician). He's very masculine but in a kind of...feline way I guess is the best way to describe it (if you see a picture of him you will understand what I mean), but he's a totally devoted husband and family man, a vocal environmental, political and social activist, a humanitarian, and has started a foundation to support up and coming independent young musicians out of the money he has made from his career. He's an all-round damn nice guy, too.

I have found so far that the worst sexism and stuff I have encountered has actually come from MtFs - GMs tend to be pretty accepting of me for the most part (with the notable exception of those in my family who have a bee in their bonnet about me somehow threatening their masculinity or SOMETHING lol) and GGs usually don't have a problem - I do notice that sometimes I get treated a bit differently by GGs than the bio guys do (and yes, it has to do with me having been raised and socialised female because I understand girls better than bio guys do and because it seems that the girls feel more comfortable around me than they do around bio guys because I treat them differently to the way most of the bio guys do). I don't have a problem with that though because I see it as a social advantage, if anything.

Of course there are a few exceptions - there have been a few (straight) GGs who have been quite rude and sexist toward me, but for the most part I find that once people SEE me and actually start talking to me, they don't question my masculinity in the slightest. Even when I am teased sometimes for being a "fag boy" or whatever by my friends lol, they all seem to have the ability to recognise that I am definitely a man, just a very broadly defined one who is comfortable with having the ability and the scope to skate all over the male side of the gender spectrum

I think it comes down to what Thornton said, who is anyone else to tell us who we are or what a "real" man is? If we are comfortable with our own masculinity and we KNOW that's who we are, that's what counts - and nobody else's opinion should change that level of comfort and knowledge of our identity. I also like to think that FtMs are kind of a "new breed" of man - in the sense that we have the privilege of being able to SEE the BS around gender indoctrination and pick and choose to an extent which parts of that we want to keep and which to discard to shape ourselves into the kind of man we WANT to be, rather than being dictated to by society as to what THEY think we should be.