Quote Originally Posted by DemonicDaughter
The original post was why can't men wear skirts as men. Not as CDers but specifically as men. So we're not talking about gender presentation
But this goes to the crux of the matter. Men who wear any feminine clothes are still considered crossdressers. Are crossdressers only those who try to pass as women? In which case many crossdressers do not do that. Many only underdress, many only are interested in lingerie, many only use costumes like maids and hooker outfits etc.

You cannot distinguish between crossdressers and men in skirts bcause you cannot ignore the gender attribute clothes have. A man cannot wear a skirt without being aware that changes his gender presentation. Even if he chooses to ignore it himself nobody else will. That is why ordinary men are not interested in wearing any article of feminine wear because of its inherent feminine attribute which is taboo in male society to express. Despite skirts and dresses being comfortable and pratical garments they will never gain any traction in male fashion until society itself changes it's view on men expressing femininity.

You cannot detach gender attibutes from the clothes. We dont live in a world which allows clothes to be genderless.