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    Quote Originally Posted by nikkijo View Post
    I fail to see the point of cleaning up the pig pen if you don't also clean up the hogs in the pen.... that said, why put effort into your looks and your feelings if you don't go express that effort to others.... seems like a serious waste of time to me...
    My efforts to create a feminine look are still experimental at best. I only own a few dresses and not a whole wardrobe; I have these primarily out of curiosity. Even with my best efforts I still just look like a bloke in a dress (as us Aussies would say). It is sometimes deflating to do all this work then spy myself in a mirror. But if I can't look feminine, I don't want to go out in the wider world - I'm a perfectionist that way.

    Plus, I do enjoy wearing a good suit every now and again and I like my goatee beard too much to shave it off for an afternoon in a dress.

    Quote Originally Posted by nikkijo View Post
    And its clothes.... do you truly understand how little people care about how others dress..... nobody has time anymore to complain about how someone else looks....
    This is another comments that I was referring to in my earlier post. The kinds of comments do not take into account a person's location and it's cultural or legal precedences about gender issues. In some cases these comments are just regurgitated without any personal experience backing them up.

    It's not just clothes is it? Even if you are post-op TG and look as feminine as any genetic female; the conservatives of the world will disagree with you at best and try to remove your human rights at worst. God forbid you are a man who just wears a dress with no efforts to portray a feminine image, you are confronting social norms and being non-conformist even more so.

    While Australia, like the US is a largely open democracy in general, there are places you still wouldn't go out as a man dressed in women's clothes, no matter how feminine you look. And while we have laws to protect some one's rights (that are even stronger than US laws) the conservatives of the world will do their level headed best to make it difficult for you.

    These are pretty general and anecdotal comments I know but the do happen, there are examples here. I my case even IF I could perfect a feminine image to a standard I'm happy with and even IF I was going out in a place open and accepting; there are aspects of my life that would be jeopardy if I did so. As it is one I can say is that I'll be living in a small regional city; we all know places like these are even more conservative. Please trust my on this one as even being here and being vocal could be taken into consideration. I am probably being more concerned about these issues than I have to be, but after being told that even the RISK and POTENTIAL of something happening is of great concern, you get a little twitchy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Melody Moore View Post
    I consider you transgendered because you admit that you 'cross-dress' which is a transgendered activity.

    FACT: The word transgender is an umbrella terminology that identifies those who are gender diverse or who
    also might have a different gender identity to their birth sex. This includes cross-dressers or transvestites,
    drag queens & kings gender queer, androgyny, & pre-op & post-op transsexual & intersexuals

    So stop being in denial - You are transgender if you are a cross-dresser, no matter how part-time you might be.
    ANOTHER common statement that really annoys me. I apologise to you Melody but you happened to be the person who posted this while my buttons have been pushed. When people say they are CD and not TG, they are refering to themselves and their lifestyle. It's done as a form of short hand when describing your own personal situation when required. I describe my activities as cross dressing at best, please don't tell me I am in denial because I don't say I'm TG.

    There is also talk here sometimes about how the human nature is to try an categorise everything. We then try to not do it to other people in case we cause offense. Why then write something like your post? It's rather condescending. We had just finished talking about people who throw the dictionary definition of closet around. They might be doing it as away to try to explain that not being more open and introverted is a just frame of mind. But there are better ways of going about it.

    Why is this place called Crossdresseers.com and not Transgendered.com then?
    Last edited by Mister Ed; 06-18-2011 at 06:00 AM. Reason: Removed incorrect definition.

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